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"this is going to let team Red claim to be the pro-worker team" Nobody sane will believe them; while I believe the start of this was when the New Left captured

"this is going to let team Red claim to be the pro-worker team" Nobody sane will believe them; while I believe the start of this was when the New Left captured "Team Blue" in the 1970s and blue collar workers famously became part of the Reagan coalition (and worked with him against the Soviet Union, particularly in Poland), the GOP establishment hates this part of its base. Repeating part of another comment which in general is a repeat of all of this: A great deal of Trump's otherwise inexplicable popularity is that he's a 1970s NYC Democrat just like Reagan in the 1980s was a self-described FDR Democrat and he doesn't hate these people. Doesn't care or do much for them, but this is a palpable difference from the GOPe.

lamontcg 4y ago
> Nobody sane will believe them Those blue collar Reagan Democrats that you're talking about are the ones that believe that. Same people more or less. That is why Trump did well, he appeared to them to be a pro-worker Republican in the 2016 campaign and they voted for him. While anti-communism may have been more impactful in the 70s, the Democrats being solid pro-big-business for the past 30 years has convinced a lot of people to vote Republican since they'll get low taxes and the freedom to do whatever they want personally. You may claim they're not sane or they're stupid, but that doesn't win their votes, and they're not interested in long-winded explanations of what Democrats are providing for them at the margins while yelling at them that they're racist/sexist/homophobic/etc. If the Democrats were more pro-labor across the board and the message was simply "here is universal health care / child care / college and strong labor regulations for everyone" then there would be a real blue wave.