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Camera manufacturers are very capabale of making hardware, incl. optics, that run sophisticated embedded software to take pictures. For editing, go to Adobe or

by hef19898 4y ago

Camera manufacturers are very capabale of making hardware, incl. optics, that run sophisticated embedded software to take pictures. For editing, go to Adobe or one of the alternatives. Different use cases, different products, different markets. And not everything in the world can be solved by some consumer grade app.

heather45879 4y ago
I prefer manual buttons when taking photos the traditional way. Too many digital screens these days deviate from a good solid device that does a few things really well.
- bigyikes 4y ago
  This is why I got a Fuji XT-30. It’s got a physical control for everything. I don’t have to use the menu unless I’m doing something unusual. Sadly, it doesn’t seem like there are many cameras designed this way anymore.
awestroke 4y ago
This has nothing to do with editing. Modern smartphones combine multiple pictures for each picture you take, and have very sophisticated demosaicing, noise reduction and color grading. No app needed.
NikolaNovak 4y ago
I could not disagree more. Professional photographers require good reliable connectivity. Nikon cameras are extremely clunky in this regard. Similarly, their menu system is atrocious. I am not saying this as somebody who looked at a camera once and said "this is too hard". I ran a photo business from 2008 to 2018, read all the manuals intimately and worked with Nikon cameras daily, and came to it from techie nerd perspective and knew what every button option and mode does in intricate detail. "Great hardware, horrible software" is well understood state of camera business last 2 decades. I now have two young kids. I have 4 dslr and two mirrorless cameras at home... And take kids photos with my cell - because it's convenient accessible and fast to transmit. Why can't I have an efficient sharing work flow with my $3000 camera? Because they make sucky closed systems and refuse to change open or learn.
- hef19898 4y ago
  Studio photographers need connectivity, everyone else needs two fast storage card slots. And your comment is honestly the first time I hear anybody claim Nikons menu system is "bad", especially with all those custom menus and buttons one can set-up to automated basically everything. I never worked with Sony or Canon, so I cannot say how that compares.
  - NikolaNovak 4y ago
    >>Studio photographers need connectivity, everyone else needs two fast storage card slots. That is, at best, myopic. Sports photographers need fast connectivity far more than studio photographers. Their whole business is to take, select, and send shots out as fast as possible. News coverage needs fast connectivity. Think even wedding photography - the ability to share photos to social networks right after ceremony, or display the couple shots during dinner is a professional USP. Instead, I'm juggling card reader, with my "two fast cards" and laptop and lightroom on my lap during speeches. Just about every type of photography, professional or consumer, benefits from fast and easy connectivity. >>And your comment is honestly the first time I hear anybody claim Nikons menu system is "bad" Possible. we simply have different colleagues and frequent different forums then :). Their menu system is powerful but poorly designed. Why are there two different types of setting banks? Why aren't there hardware buttons to select them? Why is some stuff unDer shooting but other under 6 layers of custom setting menu? Which is different than setup menu? Why is AF ON setup not under "controls"? And myriad other idiosyncracies. Just because you're used to it (as am I!) does not make it good.
    - hef19898 4y ago
      Damn, forgot about sports... Funny so that theose pros seem to be really happy with their 6k camera bodies paired with 10k+ optics, one would assume that if connectivity would be a killer feature, like AF back when Canon ate the sports market from Nikon, someone between Nikon, Canon, Sony or Fuji would implement it. The money is definitely there.
      - 4y ago

heather45879 4y ago

I prefer manual buttons when taking photos the traditional way. Too many digital screens these days deviate from a good solid device that does a few things really well.

bigyikes 4y ago
This is why I got a Fuji XT-30. It’s got a physical control for everything. I don’t have to use the menu unless I’m doing something unusual. Sadly, it doesn’t seem like there are many cameras designed this way anymore.

awestroke 4y ago

This has nothing to do with editing. Modern smartphones combine multiple pictures for each picture you take, and have very sophisticated demosaicing, noise reduction and color grading. No app needed.

NikolaNovak 4y ago

I could not disagree more. Professional photographers require good reliable connectivity. Nikon cameras are extremely clunky in this regard. Similarly, their menu system is atrocious. I am not saying this as somebody who looked at a camera once and said "this is too hard". I ran a photo business from 2008 to 2018, read all the manuals intimately and worked with Nikon cameras daily, and came to it from techie nerd perspective and knew what every button option and mode does in intricate detail. "Great hardware, horrible software" is well understood state of camera business last 2 decades. I now have two young kids. I have 4 dslr and two mirrorless cameras at home... And take kids photos with my cell - because it's convenient accessible and fast to transmit. Why can't I have an efficient sharing work flow with my $3000 camera? Because they make sucky closed systems and refuse to change open or learn.

hef19898 4y ago
Studio photographers need connectivity, everyone else needs two fast storage card slots. And your comment is honestly the first time I hear anybody claim Nikons menu system is "bad", especially with all those custom menus and buttons one can set-up to automated basically everything. I never worked with Sony or Canon, so I cannot say how that compares.
- NikolaNovak 4y ago
  >>Studio photographers need connectivity, everyone else needs two fast storage card slots. That is, at best, myopic. Sports photographers need fast connectivity far more than studio photographers. Their whole business is to take, select, and send shots out as fast as possible. News coverage needs fast connectivity. Think even wedding photography - the ability to share photos to social networks right after ceremony, or display the couple shots during dinner is a professional USP. Instead, I'm juggling card reader, with my "two fast cards" and laptop and lightroom on my lap during speeches. Just about every type of photography, professional or consumer, benefits from fast and easy connectivity. >>And your comment is honestly the first time I hear anybody claim Nikons menu system is "bad" Possible. we simply have different colleagues and frequent different forums then :). Their menu system is powerful but poorly designed. Why are there two different types of setting banks? Why aren't there hardware buttons to select them? Why is some stuff unDer shooting but other under 6 layers of custom setting menu? Which is different than setup menu? Why is AF ON setup not under "controls"? And myriad other idiosyncracies. Just because you're used to it (as am I!) does not make it good.
  - hef19898 4y ago
    Damn, forgot about sports... Funny so that theose pros seem to be really happy with their 6k camera bodies paired with 10k+ optics, one would assume that if connectivity would be a killer feature, like AF back when Canon ate the sports market from Nikon, someone between Nikon, Canon, Sony or Fuji would implement it. The money is definitely there.
    - 4y ago