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That's like saying it's bullshit because you have to put up a pole or dig a trench to get a wire from the road to your house to get fiber. Or that solar irradia

That's like saying it's bullshit because you have to put up a pole or dig a trench to get a wire from the road to your house to get fiber. Or that solar irradiance maps are bullshit because you have trees. The provider gets the service to your property, its not their issue you have to modify your property to get it to your house and your equipment. Cut some trees down and or put the receiver up higher if you want to get the service currently delivered to the treetops on your property.

pirate787 4y ago
Satellite doesn't deliver to wooded property, that's not a realistic form of broadband access and shouldn't be counted in the coverage statistics. We deliver electricity to every household in America but somehow the corrupt land-line providers and their FCC apologists can't deliver terrestrial broadband on top of the same infrastructure.
- SigmundA 4y ago
  Solar doesn't deliver to a wooded property either, doesn't mean the solar maps are bullshit. You can cut trees down if you want satellite or solar, this is not impossible to do. You can dig a trench to run fiber from the road, but might be difficult if the ground has large boulders in it, you can run fiber on poles if you cut trees down to make room.
  - voakbasda 4y ago
    A solar map that marks areas with dense forest as having the same generation capacity as areas with open grasslands? Yeah, I would call that bullshit too.
    - SigmundA 4y ago
      Well guess I can't buy a empty lot in a forested area and use an irradiance map to calculate how much solar capacity I would have with my plans, nor can I lookup my Starlink coverage with the FCC map because according to you that would be bullshit due to the trees that I plan on clearing...
- pxeboot 4y ago
  > We deliver electricity to every household in America This is certainly not the case. There are many homes without electricity, especially in Alaska and other rural areas.
voakbasda 4y ago
If I cut down the trees blocking my view, I would have enough cash in had to pay the local telco to drag fiber out to me. We are taking about dozens of old growth trees here. I feel that you would not be so brazen to suggest cutting them down if it were your own property. You can’t force people to cut down a forest just to receive internet. That… is bullshit.

pirate787 4y ago

Satellite doesn't deliver to wooded property, that's not a realistic form of broadband access and shouldn't be counted in the coverage statistics. We deliver electricity to every household in America but somehow the corrupt land-line providers and their FCC apologists can't deliver terrestrial broadband on top of the same infrastructure.

SigmundA 4y ago
Solar doesn't deliver to a wooded property either, doesn't mean the solar maps are bullshit. You can cut trees down if you want satellite or solar, this is not impossible to do. You can dig a trench to run fiber from the road, but might be difficult if the ground has large boulders in it, you can run fiber on poles if you cut trees down to make room.
- voakbasda 4y ago
  A solar map that marks areas with dense forest as having the same generation capacity as areas with open grasslands? Yeah, I would call that bullshit too.
  - SigmundA 4y ago
    Well guess I can't buy a empty lot in a forested area and use an irradiance map to calculate how much solar capacity I would have with my plans, nor can I lookup my Starlink coverage with the FCC map because according to you that would be bullshit due to the trees that I plan on clearing...
pxeboot 4y ago
> We deliver electricity to every household in America This is certainly not the case. There are many homes without electricity, especially in Alaska and other rural areas.

voakbasda 4y ago

If I cut down the trees blocking my view, I would have enough cash in had to pay the local telco to drag fiber out to me. We are taking about dozens of old growth trees here. I feel that you would not be so brazen to suggest cutting them down if it were your own property. You can’t force people to cut down a forest just to receive internet. That… is bullshit.