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The experience argument seems thin: new grads have a similar issue, and yet companies have hiring programs targeting these individuals, sometimes aggressively.
by sidlls 4y ago
The experience argument seems thin: new grads have a similar issue, and yet companies have hiring programs targeting these individuals, sometimes aggressively.
It seems the core of your argument is not that they are inexperienced, but rather that the bootcamps somehow convince them they are not and this leads to friction in the positions they seek and the expectations around the work they're capable of accomplishing.
- lazypenguin 4y agoComparing to new grads is a strawman argument, I didn’t make that comparison in my orginal comment. I would argue new grads can have the same or more experience (courses, assignments & internships) yet they would still be treated as entry level when entering the industry. Regardless, I wouldn’t classify either cohort as being particularly experienced. Educated? Trained? Practiced? Sure. Not experienced. To make a bad analogy, take a soldier from a 2 year training bootcamp and put them shoulder to shoulder with a 1 year combat veteran and you will see a significant discrepancy in the majority of cases. Yes, I personally believe that the animosity isn’t usually targeted at the fact that boot camp grads went through boot camp. Hell, programmers are most commonly self taught using free online resources for the majority of topics. My impression is because the boot camp is sold as a “get programming experience quick scheme” that most candidates would still be entry level after their program but are led to believe they are more senior.