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I really really wish that apple / google / samsung came out with official hardware game pads that snapped to the phones and had direct support at the os level f

I really really wish that apple / google / samsung came out with official hardware game pads that snapped to the phones and had direct support at the os level for game developers to easily support. We're missing out on so many good handheld experiences by being limited to touch only.

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sofixa 4y ago
Razer's Kishi is pretty good and it just works (on Android games that support it, the majority are expecting touch only).
- pxx 4y ago
  Except what do you do about sound? Bluetooth (audio) has way too high latency for gaming
  - oriolid 4y ago
    USB is good enough for real-time music on iOS and many Android phones. If you want to already snap the controller to the phone, adding a plug isn't much trouble. And some phones still have the 3.5mm jack.
    - pxx 4y ago
      The problem with the Kishi is that it blocks all the ports, right? I can't use a wired headset at the same time as the Kishi...
      - oriolid 4y ago
        At least the Android version has external USB-C port that could fit an adapter. The specs say only that you can charge through it, it would be nice to know if it's really limited to charging or fully functional.
        pxx 4y ago
        It is not functional and is power only. Source: I returned mine after being incredibly annoyed by the whole experience because of audio lag. I tried the Razer low-latency earbuds but the latency is still annoyingly high.
        oriolid 4y ago
        Ok, that's unexpectedly dumb design. I can only imagine the product manager telling HW designers that nobody cares about audio latency, everyone uses Bluetooth anyway and damn this thing must be cheaper and ready for production yesterday.
ThatPlayer 4y ago
I'm pretty sure Apple has proper gamepad support for iOS. Remember Made for iPhone? It's needed with their Apple TV that pretty much runs iOS. But controller support in games is still niche because most people just aren't going to do it. I believe Apple enforces it for their Apple Arcade games, because those have to run on Apple TV too, but outside of that there just isn't much interest.

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sofixa 4y ago

Razer's Kishi is pretty good and it just works (on Android games that support it, the majority are expecting touch only).

pxx 4y ago
Except what do you do about sound? Bluetooth (audio) has way too high latency for gaming
- oriolid 4y ago
  USB is good enough for real-time music on iOS and many Android phones. If you want to already snap the controller to the phone, adding a plug isn't much trouble. And some phones still have the 3.5mm jack.
  - pxx 4y ago
    The problem with the Kishi is that it blocks all the ports, right? I can't use a wired headset at the same time as the Kishi...
    - oriolid 4y ago
      At least the Android version has external USB-C port that could fit an adapter. The specs say only that you can charge through it, it would be nice to know if it's really limited to charging or fully functional.
      - pxx 4y ago
        It is not functional and is power only. Source: I returned mine after being incredibly annoyed by the whole experience because of audio lag. I tried the Razer low-latency earbuds but the latency is still annoyingly high.
        oriolid 4y ago
        Ok, that's unexpectedly dumb design. I can only imagine the product manager telling HW designers that nobody cares about audio latency, everyone uses Bluetooth anyway and damn this thing must be cheaper and ready for production yesterday.

ThatPlayer 4y ago

I'm pretty sure Apple has proper gamepad support for iOS. Remember Made for iPhone? It's needed with their Apple TV that pretty much runs iOS. But controller support in games is still niche because most people just aren't going to do it. I believe Apple enforces it for their Apple Arcade games, because those have to run on Apple TV too, but outside of that there just isn't much interest.