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> If you have kids don't have nice stuff, it's very easy. An unexpected upshot is that in a functional household you can let them play like actual children, wi

> If you have kids don't have nice stuff, it's very easy. An unexpected upshot is that in a functional household you can let them play like actual children, without the cloying anxiety and constant shrieks of "For Gods sake Tristan and Tarquin, not on the Louis Vuitton !!"

TeMPOraL 4y ago
Which is also a disincentive (however small) for having kids - just as you finally start being able to afford something nice, you have to wait until your kids are ~15+ years old. Only then, you have a small window of opportunity, some 10 years maybe, before your offspring spawns children of their own... (Myself I prefer the approach of "have nice stuff, just don't sweat it when kids damage it - it's still just stuff".) Also, your point doesn't work in context of GP's comment taken as whole, i.e. of reverting back to products used 50 years ago: a big value plastics bring as a material family is safety - when you replace your plastics with glass and metals, your home doesn't turn into a "functional household you can let them play like actual children" - it turns into a hazardous environment where children can maim themselves with every other object they touch. Like, the other day my 14 m.o. accidentally dropped the bottle she was drinking from straight onto her foot, and cried for a minute. If that bottle was made of glass, we'd have to take her to a hospital for an x-ray.
dham 4y ago
Yea, I just laugh when my friends have all this nice stuff then they start having kids. I have a modest house with basic stuff. Walls were drawn all over, I just paint them. Furniture has paint, markers, things get spilt on it. Daughter thought it was cool to use permanent marker from a drawer on hardwood floors. Didn't come off, will probably have to resurface eventually, but literally who cares. Who am I trying impress? I look at these things as memories and try to fix what I can.
- Vrondi 4y ago
  I would like to share that plain original Windex will take permanent marker out of many upholstery fabrics (and some carpets) if applied with a scrub brush and plenty of elbow grease, followed by a washcloth. I would try it on the floors, too, possibly also a Magic Eraser sponge.
  - ddeck 4y ago
    FYI, plain Windex contains ingredients (EGE) linked to reproductive (testicular) and developmental toxicity: https://www.ecetoc.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/ECETOC-TR-095-Vol-I.pdf https://www.ecetoc.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/ECETOC-TR-... https://www.chemeurope.com/en/encyclopedia/Windex.html https://www.chemeurope.com/en/encyclopedia/Windex.html https://www.chemeurope.com/en/encyclopedia/2-Butoxyethanol.html#Health_and_safety https://www.chemeurope.com/en/encyclopedia/2-Butoxyethanol.h...
    - swores 4y ago
      Wouldn't wearing a mask while cleaning, and not drinking the stuff avoid that being a problem? Don't have to give kids a bottle of it to sniff while they're making the mess in the first place!

TeMPOraL 4y ago

Which is also a disincentive (however small) for having kids - just as you finally start being able to afford something nice, you have to wait until your kids are ~15+ years old. Only then, you have a small window of opportunity, some 10 years maybe, before your offspring spawns children of their own... (Myself I prefer the approach of "have nice stuff, just don't sweat it when kids damage it - it's still just stuff".) Also, your point doesn't work in context of GP's comment taken as whole, i.e. of reverting back to products used 50 years ago: a big value plastics bring as a material family is safety - when you replace your plastics with glass and metals, your home doesn't turn into a "functional household you can let them play like actual children" - it turns into a hazardous environment where children can maim themselves with every other object they touch. Like, the other day my 14 m.o. accidentally dropped the bottle she was drinking from straight onto her foot, and cried for a minute. If that bottle was made of glass, we'd have to take her to a hospital for an x-ray.

dham 4y ago

Yea, I just laugh when my friends have all this nice stuff then they start having kids. I have a modest house with basic stuff. Walls were drawn all over, I just paint them. Furniture has paint, markers, things get spilt on it. Daughter thought it was cool to use permanent marker from a drawer on hardwood floors. Didn't come off, will probably have to resurface eventually, but literally who cares. Who am I trying impress? I look at these things as memories and try to fix what I can.

Vrondi 4y ago
I would like to share that plain original Windex will take permanent marker out of many upholstery fabrics (and some carpets) if applied with a scrub brush and plenty of elbow grease, followed by a washcloth. I would try it on the floors, too, possibly also a Magic Eraser sponge.
- ddeck 4y ago
  FYI, plain Windex contains ingredients (EGE) linked to reproductive (testicular) and developmental toxicity: https://www.ecetoc.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/ECETOC-TR-095-Vol-I.pdf https://www.ecetoc.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/ECETOC-TR-... https://www.chemeurope.com/en/encyclopedia/Windex.html https://www.chemeurope.com/en/encyclopedia/Windex.html https://www.chemeurope.com/en/encyclopedia/2-Butoxyethanol.html#Health_and_safety https://www.chemeurope.com/en/encyclopedia/2-Butoxyethanol.h...
  - swores 4y ago
    Wouldn't wearing a mask while cleaning, and not drinking the stuff avoid that being a problem? Don't have to give kids a bottle of it to sniff while they're making the mess in the first place!