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Just use glass. I never understood plastic containers. Basically just use shit that existed 50 years ago for food. Iron pans, store in glass, butter, lard.

by dham 4y ago

Just use glass. I never understood plastic containers. Basically just use shit that existed 50 years ago for food. Iron pans, store in glass, butter, lard. If you spill stuff on a couch just live with it. Buy leather. Too many things are made because people are lazy. If you have kids don't have nice stuff, it's very easy.

TylerE 4y ago
Glass is expensive to make (and recycle!), heavy, physically larger (since your container is, now, say, 0.250" thick instead of 0.025"), and much more likely to break during shipping, and presents an injury risk when broken.
- superdisk 4y ago
  Doesn't disrupt your hormones though. I'll take it.
  - TylerE 4y ago
    How do you know? I guarantee you that glass gets washed at least once before it gets to you.
- r00fus 4y ago
  Part of the problem is that our supply chain is so global now. Maybe stuff shouldn't be shipped around so much and sourced/distributed locally.
nonrandomstring 4y ago
> If you have kids don't have nice stuff, it's very easy. An unexpected upshot is that in a functional household you can let them play like actual children, without the cloying anxiety and constant shrieks of "For Gods sake Tristan and Tarquin, not on the Louis Vuitton !!"
- TeMPOraL 4y ago
  Which is also a disincentive (however small) for having kids - just as you finally start being able to afford something nice, you have to wait until your kids are ~15+ years old. Only then, you have a small window of opportunity, some 10 years maybe, before your offspring spawns children of their own... (Myself I prefer the approach of "have nice stuff, just don't sweat it when kids damage it - it's still just stuff".) Also, your point doesn't work in context of GP's comment taken as whole, i.e. of reverting back to products used 50 years ago: a big value plastics bring as a material family is safety - when you replace your plastics with glass and metals, your home doesn't turn into a "functional household you can let them play like actual children" - it turns into a hazardous environment where children can maim themselves with every other object they touch. Like, the other day my 14 m.o. accidentally dropped the bottle she was drinking from straight onto her foot, and cried for a minute. If that bottle was made of glass, we'd have to take her to a hospital for an x-ray.
- dham 4y ago
  Yea, I just laugh when my friends have all this nice stuff then they start having kids. I have a modest house with basic stuff. Walls were drawn all over, I just paint them. Furniture has paint, markers, things get spilt on it. Daughter thought it was cool to use permanent marker from a drawer on hardwood floors. Didn't come off, will probably have to resurface eventually, but literally who cares. Who am I trying impress? I look at these things as memories and try to fix what I can.
  - Vrondi 4y ago
    I would like to share that plain original Windex will take permanent marker out of many upholstery fabrics (and some carpets) if applied with a scrub brush and plenty of elbow grease, followed by a washcloth. I would try it on the floors, too, possibly also a Magic Eraser sponge.
    - ddeck 4y ago
      FYI, plain Windex contains ingredients (EGE) linked to reproductive (testicular) and developmental toxicity: https://www.ecetoc.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/ECETOC-TR-095-Vol-I.pdf https://www.ecetoc.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/ECETOC-TR-... https://www.chemeurope.com/en/encyclopedia/Windex.html https://www.chemeurope.com/en/encyclopedia/Windex.html https://www.chemeurope.com/en/encyclopedia/2-Butoxyethanol.html#Health_and_safety https://www.chemeurope.com/en/encyclopedia/2-Butoxyethanol.h...
afarviral 4y ago
But the paper the butter/lard is packaged in contains PFAS/plastics, or you can use something else... packaged in plastic! The entire supply chain is polluted in the name of efficiency/cost (reduction of spoilage, less weight etc) and most people live in the most populated places where it's not possible to source diary directly from the animal in to a glass receptacle. A personal change to use glass is something I'm doing and many might want to consider, but so much of the problem is systematic. "Just use glass" is good, but insufficient.
derbOac 4y ago
I get where you're coming from but, just as example, leather has its own set of issues. Trying to avoid this stuff is a bit like Night of the Living Dead -- it's everywhere.

by dham 4y ago

TylerE 4y ago

Glass is expensive to make (and recycle!), heavy, physically larger (since your container is, now, say, 0.250" thick instead of 0.025"), and much more likely to break during shipping, and presents an injury risk when broken.

superdisk 4y ago
Doesn't disrupt your hormones though. I'll take it.
- TylerE 4y ago
  How do you know? I guarantee you that glass gets washed at least once before it gets to you.
r00fus 4y ago
Part of the problem is that our supply chain is so global now. Maybe stuff shouldn't be shipped around so much and sourced/distributed locally.

nonrandomstring 4y ago

> If you have kids don't have nice stuff, it's very easy. An unexpected upshot is that in a functional household you can let them play like actual children, without the cloying anxiety and constant shrieks of "For Gods sake Tristan and Tarquin, not on the Louis Vuitton !!"

TeMPOraL 4y ago
Which is also a disincentive (however small) for having kids - just as you finally start being able to afford something nice, you have to wait until your kids are ~15+ years old. Only then, you have a small window of opportunity, some 10 years maybe, before your offspring spawns children of their own... (Myself I prefer the approach of "have nice stuff, just don't sweat it when kids damage it - it's still just stuff".) Also, your point doesn't work in context of GP's comment taken as whole, i.e. of reverting back to products used 50 years ago: a big value plastics bring as a material family is safety - when you replace your plastics with glass and metals, your home doesn't turn into a "functional household you can let them play like actual children" - it turns into a hazardous environment where children can maim themselves with every other object they touch. Like, the other day my 14 m.o. accidentally dropped the bottle she was drinking from straight onto her foot, and cried for a minute. If that bottle was made of glass, we'd have to take her to a hospital for an x-ray.
dham 4y ago
Yea, I just laugh when my friends have all this nice stuff then they start having kids. I have a modest house with basic stuff. Walls were drawn all over, I just paint them. Furniture has paint, markers, things get spilt on it. Daughter thought it was cool to use permanent marker from a drawer on hardwood floors. Didn't come off, will probably have to resurface eventually, but literally who cares. Who am I trying impress? I look at these things as memories and try to fix what I can.
- Vrondi 4y ago
  I would like to share that plain original Windex will take permanent marker out of many upholstery fabrics (and some carpets) if applied with a scrub brush and plenty of elbow grease, followed by a washcloth. I would try it on the floors, too, possibly also a Magic Eraser sponge.
  - ddeck 4y ago
    FYI, plain Windex contains ingredients (EGE) linked to reproductive (testicular) and developmental toxicity: https://www.ecetoc.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/ECETOC-TR-095-Vol-I.pdf https://www.ecetoc.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/ECETOC-TR-... https://www.chemeurope.com/en/encyclopedia/Windex.html https://www.chemeurope.com/en/encyclopedia/Windex.html https://www.chemeurope.com/en/encyclopedia/2-Butoxyethanol.html#Health_and_safety https://www.chemeurope.com/en/encyclopedia/2-Butoxyethanol.h...

afarviral 4y ago

But the paper the butter/lard is packaged in contains PFAS/plastics, or you can use something else... packaged in plastic! The entire supply chain is polluted in the name of efficiency/cost (reduction of spoilage, less weight etc) and most people live in the most populated places where it's not possible to source diary directly from the animal in to a glass receptacle. A personal change to use glass is something I'm doing and many might want to consider, but so much of the problem is systematic. "Just use glass" is good, but insufficient.

derbOac 4y ago

I get where you're coming from but, just as example, leather has its own set of issues. Trying to avoid this stuff is a bit like Night of the Living Dead -- it's everywhere.