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Neither the Open Markets Act or the Digital Markets Act will do anything about Apple's commission. You can have alternative app stores, sideloading, whatever. I

Neither the Open Markets Act or the Digital Markets Act will do anything about Apple's commission. You can have alternative app stores, sideloading, whatever. It doesn't change anything about using Apple's intellectual property and having to pay for it. All it will do is make the products worse for users. But developers aren't going to get the outcome they want, which is to ride the rails for free.

gjsman-1000 4y ago
Right - but those pushing for external app stores assume it will work that way. Instead... Apple's probably going to make some forms and demand manual reporting and commission payments. However, it would be so contrary to the spirit, if not the letter, of the law that I expect any such attempts would quickly gain antitrust scrutiny and new legislation declaring that APIs and software included in a device may only be monetized at point-of-sale (with the exception of subscription plans marketed toward consumers). It is possible that a court would even see it as such a violation of the law's intended effect that they would step in.
- Despegar 4y ago
  No government is going to expropriate Apple's intellectual property just to move some money from Apple to developers. It also wouldn't get passed courts.
  - EMIRELADERO 4y ago
    The whole point of the DMA EU regulations is that one should be able to make and distribute an iOS app without entering into a contractual relationship with Apple at all
EMIRELADERO 4y ago
How is me making an app that makes API calls to iOS an "use of Apple's intellectual property"? I'm not distributing any IP besides my own, all I'm doing is telling the API to execute in a certain way inside the hardware the user already posseses. A good analogy would be me making a new control panel for a mechanical machine, where the panel has metal arms and rods that connect to the machine's original mechanisms to bring about a certain result that the machine itself would be incapable of bringing on its own. You wouldn't say I can't distribute that new panel I made because the original machine is patented, right?

gjsman-1000 4y ago

Right - but those pushing for external app stores assume it will work that way. Instead... Apple's probably going to make some forms and demand manual reporting and commission payments. However, it would be so contrary to the spirit, if not the letter, of the law that I expect any such attempts would quickly gain antitrust scrutiny and new legislation declaring that APIs and software included in a device may only be monetized at point-of-sale (with the exception of subscription plans marketed toward consumers). It is possible that a court would even see it as such a violation of the law's intended effect that they would step in.

Despegar 4y ago
No government is going to expropriate Apple's intellectual property just to move some money from Apple to developers. It also wouldn't get passed courts.
- EMIRELADERO 4y ago
  The whole point of the DMA EU regulations is that one should be able to make and distribute an iOS app without entering into a contractual relationship with Apple at all

EMIRELADERO 4y ago

How is me making an app that makes API calls to iOS an "use of Apple's intellectual property"? I'm not distributing any IP besides my own, all I'm doing is telling the API to execute in a certain way inside the hardware the user already posseses. A good analogy would be me making a new control panel for a mechanical machine, where the panel has metal arms and rods that connect to the machine's original mechanisms to bring about a certain result that the machine itself would be incapable of bringing on its own. You wouldn't say I can't distribute that new panel I made because the original machine is patented, right?