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You need to read up on androgen insensitivity syndrome: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen_insensitivity_syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen_ins

You need to read up on androgen insensitivity syndrome: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen_insensitivity_syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen_insensitivity_syndrom... It is a condition that causes some people with XY chromosomes to develop no male secondary sex characteristics, and instead develop varying extents of typical female sex characteristics, up to and including being indistinguishable from any other woman -- with the exception that they can't reproduce. So, in your binary evaluation, what sex would you consider these people to be? This is just one of several different intersex conditions in humans that are recognized by medical and biological science, independent of prevailing social fashions. It sounds like you've been indoctrinated with a faith-based gender ideology of your own...

houstonn 4y ago
That's a category error. Developmental sex disorders (DSDs) are variations of anatomy, not variations of sex. The existence of intersex people does not change the fact that sex is binary. Sex is defined by gametes. Intermediate gametes do not exist.
- thaumaturgy 4y ago
  You are choosing a narrow definition of "sex" that isn't supported in current medical literature. Yale for example defines "intersex" as "describing a person whose biological sex is ambiguous" (https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/what-do-we-mean-by-sex-and-gender/ https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/what-do-we-mean-by-se...). In 2001, a UN committee was formed to establish some guidelines on the definitions of sex and gender, and "in the study of human subjects, the term sex should be used as a classification according to the reproductive organs and functions that derive from the chromosomal complement" (https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/japplphysiol.00376.2005 https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/japplphysio...). Scientific literature is still a bit fuzzy on the issue, especially when describing atypical sex or gender-related matters in humans, and researchers sometimes prefer the term "gender" because of cultural sensitivities (ibid.). > Intermediate gametes do not exist. These are called ovotestis in some people with particular forms of intersex conditions. A subset of ovotestis includes gametes containing both "male" and "female" reproductive tissue.
rsj_hn 4y ago
You are confusing the definition of a category with the realization of category members. We say that a horse has four legs and two eyes, but horses are born with three legs sometimes, or get into an accident and lose a leg, or they are born blind, etc. That doesn't mean they stop being horses or that we invent a new species of horses that have only three legs. Similarly the existence of Siamese twins doesn't mean we need to rewrite classifications of what an adult human male is, etc. That's not how categorization works.

houstonn 4y ago

That's a category error. Developmental sex disorders (DSDs) are variations of anatomy, not variations of sex. The existence of intersex people does not change the fact that sex is binary. Sex is defined by gametes. Intermediate gametes do not exist.

thaumaturgy 4y ago
You are choosing a narrow definition of "sex" that isn't supported in current medical literature. Yale for example defines "intersex" as "describing a person whose biological sex is ambiguous" (https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/what-do-we-mean-by-sex-and-gender/ https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/what-do-we-mean-by-se...). In 2001, a UN committee was formed to establish some guidelines on the definitions of sex and gender, and "in the study of human subjects, the term sex should be used as a classification according to the reproductive organs and functions that derive from the chromosomal complement" (https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/japplphysiol.00376.2005 https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/japplphysio...). Scientific literature is still a bit fuzzy on the issue, especially when describing atypical sex or gender-related matters in humans, and researchers sometimes prefer the term "gender" because of cultural sensitivities (ibid.). > Intermediate gametes do not exist. These are called ovotestis in some people with particular forms of intersex conditions. A subset of ovotestis includes gametes containing both "male" and "female" reproductive tissue.

rsj_hn 4y ago

You are confusing the definition of a category with the realization of category members. We say that a horse has four legs and two eyes, but horses are born with three legs sometimes, or get into an accident and lose a leg, or they are born blind, etc. That doesn't mean they stop being horses or that we invent a new species of horses that have only three legs. Similarly the existence of Siamese twins doesn't mean we need to rewrite classifications of what an adult human male is, etc. That's not how categorization works.