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Yeah, like I get people maybe being wary of soy. There's a lot of mistruths and half understood myths out there. In addition to various contradictory findings f

Yeah, like I get people maybe being wary of soy. There's a lot of mistruths and half understood myths out there. In addition to various contradictory findings from studies [0]. But for a list speaking from a position of expertise it felt quite jarring to see it included as a definitive "don't" and made me wonder about the agenda of GP (soy with respect to fertility is indelibly linked with the far-right "soyboy" meme). As a chemist the idea that phytoestrogens might have the same impact as estrogen isn't completely buck-wild, but also as a chemist I know that two isomers with the exact same composition can have wildly different effects in the human body. So I'd need to see a lot of solid evidence before treating is as anything more than a myth spread by misinterpreted studies of red-clover consumption in Australian sheep from the 1940s. [0]: https://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282(10)00368-7/pdf https://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282(10)00368-7/pdf

vladvasiliu 4y ago
> But for a list speaking from a position of expertise it felt quite jarring to see it included as a definitive "don't" and made me wonder about the agenda of GP (soy with respect to fertility is indelibly linked with the far-right "soyboy" meme). I can see why that would make you wonder. However, a few years ago, the French TV did a take on soy and products containing derivates [0] (French only, unfortunately). It warned about possible effects on the endocrine system. In relation to your point, there are two notable things: 1. It focused mainly on effects in females (never heard of a "soygirl" meme) 2. French TV is not affiliated with the alt-right (or any right) in any way, shape, or form. It has a reputation of being quite left-leaning. And that's by French standards. [0] https://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/alimentation/perturbateurs-endocriniens-alerte-sur-les-aliments-au-soja_3456845.html https://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/alimentation/perturbateurs...

vladvasiliu 4y ago

> But for a list speaking from a position of expertise it felt quite jarring to see it included as a definitive "don't" and made me wonder about the agenda of GP (soy with respect to fertility is indelibly linked with the far-right "soyboy" meme). I can see why that would make you wonder. However, a few years ago, the French TV did a take on soy and products containing derivates [0] (French only, unfortunately). It warned about possible effects on the endocrine system. In relation to your point, there are two notable things: 1. It focused mainly on effects in females (never heard of a "soygirl" meme) 2. French TV is not affiliated with the alt-right (or any right) in any way, shape, or form. It has a reputation of being quite left-leaning. And that's by French standards. [0] https://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/alimentation/perturbateurs-endocriniens-alerte-sur-les-aliments-au-soja_3456845.html https://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/alimentation/perturbateurs...