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Wow! I've been learning how to code for a personal project but looking at this stuff, junior devs might be out of work soon.

by spaceman_2020 4y ago

carom 4y ago
Which is unfortunate because then they will never become senior devs.
- bckr 4y ago
  Yeah, remember how Fortran put all the ASM devs out of work?.... ;)
  - sli 4y ago
    Would you say ASM devs make up any significant fraction of the software industry these days?
    - bckr 4y ago
      The point is that most of them were able to upskill and become much more productive by automating their previous workload.
      - carom 4y ago
        Except when you need an ASM dev, or a COBOL dev (see: unemployment systems during the pandemic).
terminal_d 4y ago
Say it ain't so
synaesthesisx 4y ago
Wait until the GPT-4 version is out, and seniors are in trouble too. People don’t realize, this is still in its infancy.
- graeber_28927 4y ago
  True! Right now it is like when the camera had been around for a few years: People knew it was revolutionary, they went to the cinema to watch a train arrive and got terrified [1]. But compare that to the billions of camera phones, Marvel movies, Hubble, etc. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Arriv%C3%A9e_d%27un_train_en_gare_de_La_Ciotat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Arriv%C3%A9e_d%27un_train_...
- spaceman_2020 4y ago
  I showed this to my wife who is in academia. It can't replace academics because research, by its very definition, has to be new, but good God it's going to make her job impossibly hard - it's trivially easy to pump out papers with this tool. Once students catch on, it's going to be really hard to figure out what's a real paper and what's AI-generated. And journals are going to have a real hard time dealing with "paper spam".
  - xigoi 4y ago
    > Once students catch on, it's going to be really hard to figure out what's a real paper and what's AI-generated. Just ask the student in person to explain the paper to you.
  - sam_goody 4y ago
    There are already books being sold on aAmazon that are complete junk, generated by GPT-3
eternalban 4y ago
I think management should be first. AI managers sound very reasonable actually. Next stop, VCs. If we geeks were actually smart (regrettably we are practically not) the bots would be taking away non-geek jobs. "Thou shalt not Code!"* [the secret 4th law of robotics on planet Actually Smart Geeks Here] * graven image business all over again -- it's a sin ;)

Wow! I've been learning how to code for a personal project but looking at this stuff, junior devs might be out of work soon.

carom 4y ago

Which is unfortunate because then they will never become senior devs.

bckr 4y ago
Yeah, remember how Fortran put all the ASM devs out of work?.... ;)
- sli 4y ago
  Would you say ASM devs make up any significant fraction of the software industry these days?
  - bckr 4y ago
    The point is that most of them were able to upskill and become much more productive by automating their previous workload.
    - carom 4y ago
      Except when you need an ASM dev, or a COBOL dev (see: unemployment systems during the pandemic).

terminal_d 4y ago

Say it ain't so

synaesthesisx 4y ago

Wait until the GPT-4 version is out, and seniors are in trouble too. People don’t realize, this is still in its infancy.

graeber_28927 4y ago
True! Right now it is like when the camera had been around for a few years: People knew it was revolutionary, they went to the cinema to watch a train arrive and got terrified [1]. But compare that to the billions of camera phones, Marvel movies, Hubble, etc. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Arriv%C3%A9e_d%27un_train_en_gare_de_La_Ciotat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Arriv%C3%A9e_d%27un_train_...
spaceman_2020 4y ago
I showed this to my wife who is in academia. It can't replace academics because research, by its very definition, has to be new, but good God it's going to make her job impossibly hard - it's trivially easy to pump out papers with this tool. Once students catch on, it's going to be really hard to figure out what's a real paper and what's AI-generated. And journals are going to have a real hard time dealing with "paper spam".
- xigoi 4y ago
  > Once students catch on, it's going to be really hard to figure out what's a real paper and what's AI-generated. Just ask the student in person to explain the paper to you.
- sam_goody 4y ago
  There are already books being sold on aAmazon that are complete junk, generated by GPT-3

eternalban 4y ago

I think management should be first. AI managers sound very reasonable actually. Next stop, VCs. If we geeks were actually smart (regrettably we are practically not) the bots would be taking away non-geek jobs. "Thou shalt not Code!"* [the secret 4th law of robotics on planet Actually Smart Geeks Here] * graven image business all over again -- it's a sin ;)