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Following the link from TFA (under "Search Premium") leads to https://account.brave.com/?intent=checkout&product=search https://account.brave.com/?intent=checko

by derefr 4y ago

Following the link from TFA (under "Search Premium") leads to https://account.brave.com/?intent=checkout&product=search https://account.brave.com/?intent=checkout&product=search

prmoustache 4y ago
Thanks 3$/month looks like a decent price to me. I might give it a try although I am already running an ad blocker on my browser.
- paulcole 4y ago
  Is there any amount for which you would’ve instantly signed up and started paying or would even $1 a month still be something you “might give a try” (read: won’t do in a million years)?
  - prmoustache 4y ago
    I won't pay for anything if that doesn't provide me decent search results. This is where the "might give a try" comes from and I would definitely try the version with ads first because I would hate creating an account and giving my card number to another service if I am not 100% sure I am interested. I would also want to know if I need to pay that amont per user in my household or if I would need as many accounts per family member so that the quality of our search results aren't harmed by the difference in interests/history. 3$/month seems decent to me if search results are improved over google. The 10$/month that kagi ask me for are a bit harder to swallow. Not in itself but additionned to all the other 10ish bucks services I am already subscribed to (streaming, backup, etc). There is simply a limit/month I am willing to spend on the whole package and if I spend say n$/month on a search engine per user I will unsubscribe to other services of the same cost. And this is something I may have to negociate with my partner. The good thing is it is easier to move from and to a paying search engine than say, an instant messaging service.
    - paulcole 4y ago
      Jesus Christ. First it was $3/month seems like a decent price that you might try if you weren’t already running an ad blocker. Then it’s there’s no price cheap enough if it’s not decent search results. Then it’s well I need to know how many people per account and then it’s I’d have to talk it over with my partners. You can just say there’s a 0% chance you’d pay $1 a month and that you’d always have an excuse for why this option isn’t good enough for your high standards.
      - prmoustache 4y ago
        hmmm no. What is the use of paying a service if the search engine results are so crap you will use something else in the end?
        paulcole 4y ago
        > Thanks 3$/month looks like a decent price to me. I might give it a try From everything you said since, it sounds like you had no intention of giving it a try.
  - blacksmith_tb 4y ago
    At $1 it would be a no-brainer for me, but one possible argument I can see is that a flat fee is a funny arrangement here - I pay $3/mo if I make 100 searches a day, or 1, or none. If the idea is that it would only be fair to Brave to pay them for what they aren't making by showing me ads, you might think it would make more sense to have me pay for exactly how much they lose, not less or more?
    - paulcole 4y ago
      > you might think it would make more sense to have me pay for exactly how much they lose, not less or more You might think that, yes. Why is the flat fee “funny”? Netflix, Spotify, NYT, etc. all charge the flat fee. In fact I’m having a hard time thinking of any non-flat-fee consumer digital products.
      - blacksmith_tb 4y ago
        Well in broad terms those also are getting paid up front or making you watch / listen to ads instead, sure. In the case of SEM, the industry puts kind of a lot of energy into tracking ads, so it seems a little more straightforward to know how much I'm worth to them. But in more general terms, if we ever manage to sort out micropayments, I would prefer to pay as I go for everything - imagine the flat rate subscription model for say, your energy or water bill: "we're charging about what most families would use in a month; you say you're not a family of four? too bad."
        paulcole 4y ago
        > if we ever manage to sort out micropayments, I would prefer to pay as I go for everything I wouldn’t hold my breath lol.

by derefr 4y ago

Following the link from TFA (under "Search Premium") leads to https://account.brave.com/?intent=checkout&product=search https://account.brave.com/?intent=checkout&product=search

prmoustache 4y ago

Thanks 3$/month looks like a decent price to me. I might give it a try although I am already running an ad blocker on my browser.

paulcole 4y ago
Is there any amount for which you would’ve instantly signed up and started paying or would even $1 a month still be something you “might give a try” (read: won’t do in a million years)?
- prmoustache 4y ago
  I won't pay for anything if that doesn't provide me decent search results. This is where the "might give a try" comes from and I would definitely try the version with ads first because I would hate creating an account and giving my card number to another service if I am not 100% sure I am interested. I would also want to know if I need to pay that amont per user in my household or if I would need as many accounts per family member so that the quality of our search results aren't harmed by the difference in interests/history. 3$/month seems decent to me if search results are improved over google. The 10$/month that kagi ask me for are a bit harder to swallow. Not in itself but additionned to all the other 10ish bucks services I am already subscribed to (streaming, backup, etc). There is simply a limit/month I am willing to spend on the whole package and if I spend say n$/month on a search engine per user I will unsubscribe to other services of the same cost. And this is something I may have to negociate with my partner. The good thing is it is easier to move from and to a paying search engine than say, an instant messaging service.
  - paulcole 4y ago
    Jesus Christ. First it was $3/month seems like a decent price that you might try if you weren’t already running an ad blocker. Then it’s there’s no price cheap enough if it’s not decent search results. Then it’s well I need to know how many people per account and then it’s I’d have to talk it over with my partners. You can just say there’s a 0% chance you’d pay $1 a month and that you’d always have an excuse for why this option isn’t good enough for your high standards.
    - prmoustache 4y ago
      hmmm no. What is the use of paying a service if the search engine results are so crap you will use something else in the end?
      - paulcole 4y ago
        > Thanks 3$/month looks like a decent price to me. I might give it a try From everything you said since, it sounds like you had no intention of giving it a try.
- blacksmith_tb 4y ago
  At $1 it would be a no-brainer for me, but one possible argument I can see is that a flat fee is a funny arrangement here - I pay $3/mo if I make 100 searches a day, or 1, or none. If the idea is that it would only be fair to Brave to pay them for what they aren't making by showing me ads, you might think it would make more sense to have me pay for exactly how much they lose, not less or more?
  - paulcole 4y ago
    > you might think it would make more sense to have me pay for exactly how much they lose, not less or more You might think that, yes. Why is the flat fee “funny”? Netflix, Spotify, NYT, etc. all charge the flat fee. In fact I’m having a hard time thinking of any non-flat-fee consumer digital products.
    - blacksmith_tb 4y ago
      Well in broad terms those also are getting paid up front or making you watch / listen to ads instead, sure. In the case of SEM, the industry puts kind of a lot of energy into tracking ads, so it seems a little more straightforward to know how much I'm worth to them. But in more general terms, if we ever manage to sort out micropayments, I would prefer to pay as I go for everything - imagine the flat rate subscription model for say, your energy or water bill: "we're charging about what most families would use in a month; you say you're not a family of four? too bad."
      - paulcole 4y ago
        > if we ever manage to sort out micropayments, I would prefer to pay as I go for everything I wouldn’t hold my breath lol.