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I've rarely seen a product become so bad so quickly. Brave started out with great promises and has consistently under-delivered since.

prepend 4y ago
What problems do you have that gotten worse? I don’t use Brave search very much but it seems equivalent to duck duck go and its results are ok.
- all2 4y ago
  Generally I've found brave's results to be better on a wide swath of topics. Long form, (mostly) well written pages are top of the stack. Image search and video search lags behind other search engines significantly, though.
- iLoveOncall 4y ago
  By "product" I meant the whole Brave ecosystem actually.
  - hunterb123 4y ago
    Okay what problems in the whole ecosystem do you mean? You stated your opinion, but you forgot to add your reasoning.
    - iLoveOncall 4y ago
      What this guy said basically: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33820597 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33820597
      - prepend 4y ago
        I’m still not sure how this describes a getting worse scenario. The dumb crypto stuff has been there since the beginning and hasn’t changed much at all. I see them adding products like search and it seems like Brave is improving. I think it’s better than Chrome for the ad blocking. It’s better than FireFox for performance.
Chabsff 4y ago
the Brave browser could have been Chromium with uBlock Origin pre-packaged with it. That's it. That's all it ever needed to be. Looking around the codebase, it's filled with eyebrow-raising things like direct integration with specific crypto exchanges. Heck, it still has a whole automatic affiliate fraud feature present in the code, but disabled by default. The truth is, the mission statement is not commercially viable, because it was always trivially achievable as a non-profit project.
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soundnote 4y ago
Huh? So, thoroughly degoogling Chromium, offering standalone e2ee sync services, a standalone search engine, near uBO grade content blocking on mobile, better YouTube experience on mobile, actually user controllable takes on things like a newtab newsfeed, private video calls etc. is bad? Native vertical tabs (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33135489 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33135489) is bad? They're doing craptons.

prepend 4y ago

What problems do you have that gotten worse? I don’t use Brave search very much but it seems equivalent to duck duck go and its results are ok.

all2 4y ago
Generally I've found brave's results to be better on a wide swath of topics. Long form, (mostly) well written pages are top of the stack. Image search and video search lags behind other search engines significantly, though.
iLoveOncall 4y ago
By "product" I meant the whole Brave ecosystem actually.
- hunterb123 4y ago
  Okay what problems in the whole ecosystem do you mean? You stated your opinion, but you forgot to add your reasoning.
  - iLoveOncall 4y ago
    What this guy said basically: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33820597 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33820597
    - prepend 4y ago
      I’m still not sure how this describes a getting worse scenario. The dumb crypto stuff has been there since the beginning and hasn’t changed much at all. I see them adding products like search and it seems like Brave is improving. I think it’s better than Chrome for the ad blocking. It’s better than FireFox for performance.

Chabsff 4y ago

the Brave browser could have been Chromium with uBlock Origin pre-packaged with it. That's it. That's all it ever needed to be. Looking around the codebase, it's filled with eyebrow-raising things like direct integration with specific crypto exchanges. Heck, it still has a whole automatic affiliate fraud feature present in the code, but disabled by default. The truth is, the mission statement is not commercially viable, because it was always trivially achievable as a non-profit project.

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soundnote 4y ago

Huh? So, thoroughly degoogling Chromium, offering standalone e2ee sync services, a standalone search engine, near uBO grade content blocking on mobile, better YouTube experience on mobile, actually user controllable takes on things like a newtab newsfeed, private video calls etc. is bad? Native vertical tabs (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33135489 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33135489) is bad? They're doing craptons.