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What does this have to do with the EFF? They're straying from their original purpose again. And why is everyone pretending that these are autonomous killer rob

What does this have to do with the EFF? They're straying from their original purpose again. And why is everyone pretending that these are autonomous killer robots, when they actually need to be remotely controlled by human police officers? How is using a gun that a robot is holding any worse than using a gun that you're holding directly?

unethical_ban 4y ago
If you presume that police are prone to excessive use of force, then this is a way for police to abuse their power with even less risk to themselves. Ah yes, those protestors are really troubling and we might get hit in the head with a rock if we are unlucky, so let's deploy the remote-cop to quell dissent.
- josephcsible 4y ago
  > we might get hit in the head with a rock Isn't the point of the robot to reduce how much they have to worry about this kind of thing, making it less likely they need to preemptively use violence?
  - LightHugger 4y ago
    this doesn't seem to be how it works in practice. Weaponized remote control robots are already a thing in warfare (drones) and it seems to make murder way too easy.
  - unethical_ban 4y ago
    To be clear, the assertion is that cops do immoral violent things often enough that enabling them to be violently immoral more easily is a bad thing.
easygenes 4y ago
This topic seems to me to be unambiguously close to their core mission of defending liberty in the face of technology.
- josephcsible 4y ago
  What does this have to do with liberty? What rights were lost or weakened as a result of this?
  - ausbah 4y ago
    cops more likely to use deadly force as officer lives are no longer on the line? reading the piece it sounds like the police would have to ability to be less willing to use alternative, non-lethal or harmful solutions when they can just jump to this
    - josephcsible 4y ago
      I think this will make cops less likely to use deadly force. It gets rid of the "if I don't shoot him, he might shoot me" line of thought.

unethical_ban 4y ago

If you presume that police are prone to excessive use of force, then this is a way for police to abuse their power with even less risk to themselves. Ah yes, those protestors are really troubling and we might get hit in the head with a rock if we are unlucky, so let's deploy the remote-cop to quell dissent.

josephcsible 4y ago
> we might get hit in the head with a rock Isn't the point of the robot to reduce how much they have to worry about this kind of thing, making it less likely they need to preemptively use violence?
- LightHugger 4y ago
  this doesn't seem to be how it works in practice. Weaponized remote control robots are already a thing in warfare (drones) and it seems to make murder way too easy.
- unethical_ban 4y ago
  To be clear, the assertion is that cops do immoral violent things often enough that enabling them to be violently immoral more easily is a bad thing.

easygenes 4y ago

This topic seems to me to be unambiguously close to their core mission of defending liberty in the face of technology.

josephcsible 4y ago
What does this have to do with liberty? What rights were lost or weakened as a result of this?
- ausbah 4y ago
  cops more likely to use deadly force as officer lives are no longer on the line? reading the piece it sounds like the police would have to ability to be less willing to use alternative, non-lethal or harmful solutions when they can just jump to this
  - josephcsible 4y ago
    I think this will make cops less likely to use deadly force. It gets rid of the "if I don't shoot him, he might shoot me" line of thought.