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Something like 95% of suicides fail and then they'll toss you into a home or someplace terrible to keep you from doing it again.

hungryforcodes 4y ago
So I have to suffer a lifetime of kids just for this vague possibility? No thanks.
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- hungryforcodes 4y ago
  Not to belabor this point, nor reply to myself. But my mom is 85 and totally capable of shopping and helping herself and her brother just died at 91. He was also capable of doing basically anything you would need to survive daily. I remember visiting for the first time my great grandmother when I was 6 years old. She was 99. When she saw her great grandson topless with shorts (hey it was the tropics) she reached forward and gave me a massive purple nurple and laughed. She was still shopping daily and moving around. So I'm not really sure what scare mongering tactics in favour of parenting you are trying to propagate here. Don't have kids just because you are expecting them to take care of you in old age. That's just cruel.
throwawaydad12 4y ago
The situation is a bit more complex than that, but in any case, that's a rather weak rationale for not committing suicide. Here is a better reason: You'll be dead quite soon in any case, so unless you're in agony, you may as well enjoy your final days here. Think of some of your favorite activities and pick one. Rinse and repeat. Sound shallow? Maybe, but I've spent an awful lot of time contemplating the question.
- notch656a 4y ago
  Sorry if I did a poor job of conveying, but my comment was never intended to rationalize committing suicide or not committing suicide. It was to illustrate society generally doesn't respect these wishes, that these wishes often fail, and that ending up in an institution staffed by our juniors may be less of our own choice than we may think.
  - throwawaydad12 4y ago
    Agree. Ending up in a situation where suicide was not possible is probably one of my greatest fears.
cpsns 4y ago
Assisted suicide (death in friendlier terms) like we have in Canada is only going to become more permissive and other pleases will continue to adopt such laws. In the future when people have real options this is less likely to be an issue.

hungryforcodes 4y ago

So I have to suffer a lifetime of kids just for this vague possibility? No thanks.

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hungryforcodes 4y ago
Not to belabor this point, nor reply to myself. But my mom is 85 and totally capable of shopping and helping herself and her brother just died at 91. He was also capable of doing basically anything you would need to survive daily. I remember visiting for the first time my great grandmother when I was 6 years old. She was 99. When she saw her great grandson topless with shorts (hey it was the tropics) she reached forward and gave me a massive purple nurple and laughed. She was still shopping daily and moving around. So I'm not really sure what scare mongering tactics in favour of parenting you are trying to propagate here. Don't have kids just because you are expecting them to take care of you in old age. That's just cruel.

throwawaydad12 4y ago

The situation is a bit more complex than that, but in any case, that's a rather weak rationale for not committing suicide. Here is a better reason: You'll be dead quite soon in any case, so unless you're in agony, you may as well enjoy your final days here. Think of some of your favorite activities and pick one. Rinse and repeat. Sound shallow? Maybe, but I've spent an awful lot of time contemplating the question.

notch656a 4y ago
Sorry if I did a poor job of conveying, but my comment was never intended to rationalize committing suicide or not committing suicide. It was to illustrate society generally doesn't respect these wishes, that these wishes often fail, and that ending up in an institution staffed by our juniors may be less of our own choice than we may think.
- throwawaydad12 4y ago
  Agree. Ending up in a situation where suicide was not possible is probably one of my greatest fears.

cpsns 4y ago

Assisted suicide (death in friendlier terms) like we have in Canada is only going to become more permissive and other pleases will continue to adopt such laws. In the future when people have real options this is less likely to be an issue.