> I did and don’t feel like Rachel’s responses were sufficiently considered because of the prevailing “ugh wall of text tldr” sentiment. I read it all, it was

> I did and don’t feel like Rachel’s responses were sufficiently considered because of the prevailing “ugh wall of text tldr” sentiment. I read it all, it was extremely repetitive with little substance. When she did say something new/interesting it was cagey and often not direct. > She may be partly to blame for that, but people asked for answers and didn’t read them when given! Disagree. They read it and ignored the fluff that said nothing of value. > I don’t think TrustCor’s situation is something to joke or gloat about. Someone’s entire business just got ruined because of, if Rachel is to be believed, something wholly unrelated to operation of the CA and arguably entirely out of their control. And that's the thing, she isn't to be believed, I sure as heck don't believe her. I posted in another comment a clear lie about linking to the android app (not to mention the constant "It was never in released" BS is so mealy mouthed it isn't even funny). The same parent company owned the CA and this msgsafe, it also seems clear there was a little more to the "Measurement Systems" relationship than Rachel would admit. Sorry, that's way too many coincidences. The final nail in the coffin is the ties (even if they are fragile) to Packet Forensics which you wouldn't want in the same breath as CA yet the connections are hard to ignore given everything else Rachel said (or didn't say). I also don't for a second trust all the: > I was reminded by some of you this is a big public forum with non-CA-operators and non-browser/platform-developers present, and that participants have a lot of interest in these topics but not always the same level of experience or familiarity with the CA operations and root CA program guidelines or technical knowhow as the intended audience. Therefore let me begin by saying THANK YOU to my fellow CA/B Forum members and members of the larger community for reminding me of that, and separately thank you for those of you that have sent very nice and encouraging, supportive emails (you know who you are) Yeah, my girlfriend goes to another school, you've never heard of it... Okkkkkaaayyy. Then look at their "Why are you persecuting us!" line about other CA's, which just screams guilty. On top of all of that their msgsafe system appears to be a fraud (it's not E2EE despite their claims) so if they are acting that way with one arm of their parent company why should we trust the CA (who's auditor looks questionable and also the fact they've used the same one every year)?