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Oh please. Any direct US involvement was long after the movement was well underway. The Ukrainians picked who should run the country (then and since), and the
by hylaride 4y ago
Oh please. Any direct US involvement was long after the movement was well underway. The Ukrainians picked who should run the country (then and since), and the fact that they picked somebody who the US could work with is testament who they want to align with. Any subsequent elections, as well as who Ukrainians are literally fighting now, is only more validation that the maidan revolution was organic.
- VictorPath 4y ago
- dane-pgp 4y agoEven if you believe that the votes in Crimea and Donbass were as free and fair as Ukraine's national elections (which I don't), there is still the small matter that those votes were illegal under Ukrainian law, and thus their outcome is meaningless.
- hylaride 4y agoYou think those elections were fair, that's cute. The 80%+ referendum rates sure are validated by the blue and yellow flags being waved when the Ukrainians return. Anyways, obviously no point arguing anymore.
- fsagx 4y agoIf you had left Donbass out of your argument, I think it would be a lot more compelling. In the aftermath of the USSR breakup, referenda in the 1990's indicated large majority of Crimea did not want to be part of Ukraine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Crimean_sovereignty_referendum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Crimean_sovereignty_refer... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Crimean_referendum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Crimean_referendum
- rlkf 4y agoOn the other hand, a majority voted later that year to join the rest of Ukraine in independence from the Soviet Union. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Ukrainian_independence_referendum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Ukrainian_independence_re...