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Hasn't been my experience. I get mentally exhausted after just 2-3 hours of pair programming, and tend to be borderline useless the rest of the day. Having to

Hasn't been my experience. I get mentally exhausted after just 2-3 hours of pair programming, and tend to be borderline useless the rest of the day. Having to communicate the entire time your thought process, not really being able to just take the wheel and investigate things quietly for a few minutes, and if you're letting them drive, getting them to go to the right spots in the code and modify the right things (especially if english is their second language) not easily being able to get up and walk away from the computer if you need to ruminate on something for a moment...yeah, just fries my brain. Still need to do it at my work, since I'm managing junior developers right now that just don't see some of these things without pair programming, but it's exhausting. Part of that is the coaching junior developers that need extra handholding, but I've found it almost as tiring even amongst peers of equal skill, if it happens for an extended period of time.

jmartrican 4y ago
Interesting. We did hear complaints like this from folks starting out. What I have noticed is that when working with Pivotal veterans, those with a few years under their belt, they tended to have long endurance for pairing. They also picked up tricks along the way to keep the pair engaged and allow for investigation. Maybe its like furniture movers... it takes time to build up that endurance and mastery to get to the point where it is possible to do for 3 - 4 hours at a time. Pivotal was also strict with taking 15 minute breaks... one in the AM around 10:30am and the other in the afternoon around 3pm.... but each pair can decide on their own. When I was a team lead in pairing teams, I did allow (and encouraged solo time), but the code written during solo would be consider spike code... code to learn and try stuff out. Ultimately to make it into prod code, it had to go through a pair.
pydry 4y ago
>I get mentally exhausted after just 2-3 hours of pair programming Who wouldn't? I get tired after 1.5 hours of programming solo. >not really being able to just take the wheel and investigate things quietly for a few minutes It's not disallowed. I do this all the time when pairing. I have a suspicion that people who don't like pairing have more of a visceral rather than intellectual dislike.

jmartrican 4y ago

Interesting. We did hear complaints like this from folks starting out. What I have noticed is that when working with Pivotal veterans, those with a few years under their belt, they tended to have long endurance for pairing. They also picked up tricks along the way to keep the pair engaged and allow for investigation. Maybe its like furniture movers... it takes time to build up that endurance and mastery to get to the point where it is possible to do for 3 - 4 hours at a time. Pivotal was also strict with taking 15 minute breaks... one in the AM around 10:30am and the other in the afternoon around 3pm.... but each pair can decide on their own. When I was a team lead in pairing teams, I did allow (and encouraged solo time), but the code written during solo would be consider spike code... code to learn and try stuff out. Ultimately to make it into prod code, it had to go through a pair.

pydry 4y ago

>I get mentally exhausted after just 2-3 hours of pair programming Who wouldn't? I get tired after 1.5 hours of programming solo. >not really being able to just take the wheel and investigate things quietly for a few minutes It's not disallowed. I do this all the time when pairing. I have a suspicion that people who don't like pairing have more of a visceral rather than intellectual dislike.