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If the company is Taiwanese is there not still a concern with dependency on China and leaking of information. I realise it's important to have local manufacturi
by thorin 4y ago
If the company is Taiwanese is there not still a concern with dependency on China and leaking of information. I realise it's important to have local manufacturing, but is this still essentially a "Chinese" company considering the disputed territory thing? Excuse my ignorance here about how such things work.
- bwb 4y agoTaiwan and China are totally separate governments etc. Not totally sure what you mean here.
- helsinkiandrew 4y agoIt's a Taiwanese company with no dependency on China. TSMC has the knowledge and expertise to make 4nm chips anywhere - you could view this as their information 'leaking' to the US.
- alliao 4y agoTSMC does not depend on China.. China only claims Taiwan's sovereignty but Taiwan have de facto independence. A bit like a stalker going around telling people the person they're stalking is their girlfriend...
- ajross 4y agoTaiwan is "Chinese" ethnically, being populated[1] by descendants of many waves of Han colonization over the last few centuries. Concern over "China" has nothing to do with ethnicity, it's a geopolitical fight with the government of the People's Republic of China, which does not[2] rule Taiwan. [1] To be clear: there are also descendants of indigenous "Taiwanese" living there, who are austronesian and not Han. Ethnicity is complicated and everywhere is a melting pot. [2] In practice. Obviously "legally" both Taiwan and the PRC consider themselves the true government of the other's territory.
- philliphaydon 4y agoWhere exactly does this “Han” stuff come from because most people in China are not actually han and those in Taiwan are not han.
- ajross 4y agoI'm using what amounts to this definition, under which, yes, Taiwan and China are both majority Han: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Chinese https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Chinese As stated, ethnicity is complicated and people everywhere want to have fights over these subjects. I won't engage, that's pointless.
- philliphaydon 4y agoOh so it doesn’t actually have anything to do with blood or descent. Just cultural inheritance from han dynasty.
- ajross 4y agoI know I said I wouldn't engage, but just to point out: nothing in the linked page substantiates "doesn't actually have anything to do with". I'm not interested in getting into an ethnicity argument, but please don't misrepresent source material.
- HDThoreaun 4y agoThe vast majority of Chinese and Taiwanese identify as Han. China is effectively an ethnostate that is cleansing minorities.
- philliphaydon 4y agoMost people in Taiwan don’t identify as Han.
- HDThoreaun 4y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan 95% Han
- thorin 4y agoI was thinking about the PRC government having influence on Taiwan, I've no idea what their relationship is. Of course I have nothing against Chinese/Asian individuals, I just don't know what level of control China might seek to exert on Taiwan I guess.