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Pretty sure. https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/4346 https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/4346

by ktta 4y ago

rjzzleep 4y ago
There is also the inflation reduction act that is very enticing to European industry giants that are facing hardship or downright insolvency due to their own governments stupid energy sanctions game. In fact NOW suddenly Macron and Scholz find it unfair that the US is snatching these company's. I can't say I have much sympathy for Europe. Well played US. I wonder to what extent you can get subsidies from both acts. I assume it shouldn't be a problem.
- midasz 4y ago
  I don't think Europe has much of a choice. It's either sanctioning Russia and suffering ourselves, or allowing Ukraine to be taken with the horrors that come with that. If it would end there, maybe but still no, but it won't end there. Who is next on Russia's list?
  - phpisthebest 4y ago
    >> don't think Europe has much of a choice. The choice was made decades ago on the alter of faux environmentalism to export the environmental cost of energy production to another nation so the EU could claim moral superiority in the climate change battle. Completely decimating domestic energy sources.
    - midasz 4y ago
      No one gave a hoot about climate change decades ago. Russian gas is cheap. That's it. No idea what you're on about.
      - phpisthebest 4y ago
        >>No one gave a hoot about climate change decades ago Well that is simply false.
- sofixa 4y ago
  > due to their own governments stupid energy sanctions game Having morals and accepting hardship for standing up for them is not stupid. It's a principled stance most Europeans agree with. Governments need to step in and help whenever needed (with price caps for consumers, advantageous loans to businesses) to smooth it out, but it was that or appeasement, and we all know very well it doesn't work.
- Slartie 4y ago
  > due to their own governments stupid energy sanctions game As if the US would have just kept buying 40% of its imported gas from Russia, were the roles reversed.

Pretty sure. https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/4346 https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/4346

by ktta 4y ago

Pretty sure. https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/4346 https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/4346

rjzzleep 4y ago

There is also the inflation reduction act that is very enticing to European industry giants that are facing hardship or downright insolvency due to their own governments stupid energy sanctions game. In fact NOW suddenly Macron and Scholz find it unfair that the US is snatching these company's. I can't say I have much sympathy for Europe. Well played US. I wonder to what extent you can get subsidies from both acts. I assume it shouldn't be a problem.

midasz 4y ago
I don't think Europe has much of a choice. It's either sanctioning Russia and suffering ourselves, or allowing Ukraine to be taken with the horrors that come with that. If it would end there, maybe but still no, but it won't end there. Who is next on Russia's list?
- phpisthebest 4y ago
  >> don't think Europe has much of a choice. The choice was made decades ago on the alter of faux environmentalism to export the environmental cost of energy production to another nation so the EU could claim moral superiority in the climate change battle. Completely decimating domestic energy sources.
  - midasz 4y ago
    No one gave a hoot about climate change decades ago. Russian gas is cheap. That's it. No idea what you're on about.
    - phpisthebest 4y ago
      >>No one gave a hoot about climate change decades ago Well that is simply false.
sofixa 4y ago
> due to their own governments stupid energy sanctions game Having morals and accepting hardship for standing up for them is not stupid. It's a principled stance most Europeans agree with. Governments need to step in and help whenever needed (with price caps for consumers, advantageous loans to businesses) to smooth it out, but it was that or appeasement, and we all know very well it doesn't work.
Slartie 4y ago
> due to their own governments stupid energy sanctions game As if the US would have just kept buying 40% of its imported gas from Russia, were the roles reversed.