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> Macs are just as reliable, but far more configurable Apple has been working tirelessly for years to retrofit the iOS model to Mac. It's probably just a matte

by klabb3 4y ago

> Macs are just as reliable, but far more configurable Apple has been working tirelessly for years to retrofit the iOS model to Mac. It's probably just a matter of time, unfortunately.

schipplock 4y ago
True, they make it harder for the average Joe, but you can still do anything on macOS, even install 3rd party kernel extensions. But yes, it's quite clear they want you to use an iPad instead of a MacBook :).
scarface74 4y ago
Yes HN chicken littles have been saying that Apple is going to force all apps to go through the Mac App Store since it was introduced in 2010.
- bayindirh 4y ago
  We "HN chicken littles" were also saying that Microsoft is gonna force Secure Boot harder and harder to close the hardware ecosystem for Linux, and we're almost there. Being skeptical, and critical is important. This skepticism, criticizing and warning caused Apple to at least postpone their CSAM scan and reconsider their algorithms. We need to talk, and talk indeed openly about the things we don't like. Otherwise we'll be the real chickens at the end of the day.
  - danaris 4y ago
    Microsoft is not Apple. Their corporate culture is different, their revenue sources are different, and their incentives and motivations are different. "But we said Microsoft would do this bad thing, and then they did it!" is not a valid argument for why we should believe "But we've been saying for 12 years that Apple will do this bad thing Any Day Now™! They haven't yet, but it'll definitely happen Very Soon, just you wait!"
    - bayindirh 4y ago
      I can find you a dozen comments rehashing "The New Microsoft (TM)" which allegedly won't do such thing as forcing Secure Boot further because they have changed, the culture have changed, they now "Love Linux (TM)" and whatnot. Companies are companies. I'd love the future to sucker punch me and prove completely otherwise.
    - scarface74 4y ago
      You mean like the lock downed Xbox where even physical games have to pay a license fee and you have to buy digital games through the store?
  - jonny_eh 4y ago
    > and we're almost there. Meanwhile the only PC I own is a Steam Deck.

by klabb3 4y ago

> Macs are just as reliable, but far more configurable Apple has been working tirelessly for years to retrofit the iOS model to Mac. It's probably just a matter of time, unfortunately.

schipplock 4y ago

True, they make it harder for the average Joe, but you can still do anything on macOS, even install 3rd party kernel extensions. But yes, it's quite clear they want you to use an iPad instead of a MacBook :).

scarface74 4y ago

Yes HN chicken littles have been saying that Apple is going to force all apps to go through the Mac App Store since it was introduced in 2010.

bayindirh 4y ago
We "HN chicken littles" were also saying that Microsoft is gonna force Secure Boot harder and harder to close the hardware ecosystem for Linux, and we're almost there. Being skeptical, and critical is important. This skepticism, criticizing and warning caused Apple to at least postpone their CSAM scan and reconsider their algorithms. We need to talk, and talk indeed openly about the things we don't like. Otherwise we'll be the real chickens at the end of the day.
- danaris 4y ago
  Microsoft is not Apple. Their corporate culture is different, their revenue sources are different, and their incentives and motivations are different. "But we said Microsoft would do this bad thing, and then they did it!" is not a valid argument for why we should believe "But we've been saying for 12 years that Apple will do this bad thing Any Day Now™! They haven't yet, but it'll definitely happen Very Soon, just you wait!"
  - bayindirh 4y ago
    I can find you a dozen comments rehashing "The New Microsoft (TM)" which allegedly won't do such thing as forcing Secure Boot further because they have changed, the culture have changed, they now "Love Linux (TM)" and whatnot. Companies are companies. I'd love the future to sucker punch me and prove completely otherwise.
  - scarface74 4y ago
    You mean like the lock downed Xbox where even physical games have to pay a license fee and you have to buy digital games through the store?
- jonny_eh 4y ago
  > and we're almost there. Meanwhile the only PC I own is a Steam Deck.