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And with Apple you are not the product? You're being tracked and shown ads on Apple devices too, it's just that you have even less control and Apple has a "work
by sureglymop 4y ago
And with Apple you are not the product? You're being tracked and shown ads on Apple devices too, it's just that you have even less control and Apple has a "worked" on their image in that regard.
- voisin 4y agoAre you honestly suggesting that Google and Apple are the same in this regards?
- woodruffw 4y agoApart from App Store recommendations, where are you seeing Apple-originated ads on an iPhone?
- smoldesu 4y agoNews, Stocks, Apple Music are all big sources of ad junk. That's without mentioning all of the iCloud/service nags like AppleTV.
- zaroth 4y agoSo just long tap and uninstall them? It’s not analogous to the Windows Start Menu showing ads you can’t turn off. What are the nags? I also don’t use Apple TV and don’t recall being nagged to use it. The only thing that annoys me is the prompt to “finish setting up” my phone when I don’t want to turn on Siri. I get the prompt a few times and then it gives up trying to get me to turn on Siri and stays happily disabled.
- smoldesu 4y agoI mean, I can also click the little 'x' button on YouTube banner ads, but that doesn't make them any less annoying. Apple's promotion of their own services in MacOS makes it impossible to live in for me in the same way I can't browse the web without uBlock Origin. Blocking out nagware helps me focus.
- zaroth 4y agoI would totally agree but isn’t the uninstall a one time thing and then you never deal with again? If Apple News keeps advertising to you after you uninstall News then Apple has overstepped and should be held to account. I don’t hold it against them showing Apple News content on the Home Screen / Notification Tray iff Apple News is actually installed.
- ChuckNorris89 4y ago>So just long tap and uninstall them? It’s not analogous to the Windows Start Menu showing ads you can’t turn off. On the contrary, it's exactly analogous to Windows start menu ads as they are just icons that you can tap/right-click and uninstall, exactly like on Apple. But I do love the HN double standards here: Apple ads: "Pfff, just tap and uninstall, nothing newsworthy here." Windows ads that you can also right-click and uninstall: "OMG, the audacity from Microsoft, let's up-vote every single FUD blog post about this while frothing at the mouth."
- zaroth 4y agoIf that’s the case for Windows ads (I don’t actually know) then I totally agree the response is highly overblown there too!
- woodruffw 4y agoOh, I don't use those things. But that's good to know.
- smoldesu 4y agoMe neither, but every time I put on my Sony XM4s Apple Music gives me a nice modal asking me to pay for their service. It's really lovely UX.
- woodruffw 4y agoWell, that's a little bit different from an ad, but I take your point. That doesn't happen to me when I use the cheap earbud things that Apple sells (I use a Subsonic client app for music); do you have any idea what triggers it?
- smoldesu 4y agoProbably not being logged into iCloud.
- ace2358 4y agoCurious which subsonic client? I’ve been using play:sun for a few years and sometimes AVSub. These clients are okay, but I do get some weird issues with them sometimes. Having said that, I love subserver more than any other media server options.
- woodruffw 4y agoI currently use iSub, but I’m in the same position: occasional weird issues, some that I think are compounded by my use patterns (I tend to listen on the subway, so the frequent network disconnects seem to break the cache.)
- spacemadness 4y agoWhat ad junk? Can you give an example? Do you mean notifications?
- snapplebobapple 4y agoI wouod sqy you werent the product originally but apple figured out they were leaving money on the table and quickly converted to adding that business model on top of overcharging for devices over the last decade. Nowbitvis atleast as bad as android if nit worse