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Gun Death Rate Nears Three-Decade High, with Men at Most Risk
- sn0w_crash 4y agoIs this also a product of the patriarchy?
- someNameIG 4y ago> suicides among white males push up firearm fatalities This part could be linked to toxic masculinity.
- throwaway5959 4y agoThe young white males I know that died from suicide were all wonderful men who suffered from mental health issues.
- someNameIG 4y agoAnd one of the things with toxic masculinity is not getting help with that, or speaking about issues you are facing. Seeking help is not a sign of weakness, or does it make you less of a man. I am a white man and I feel that type of pressure.
- boppo1 4y ago> Seeking help is not a sign of weakness, or does it make you less of a man. I find women often treat you like it is/does. Men too, but men care more about what women think and hoo boy do they walk differently than they talk. I was raised to be open and honest and avoid "toxic masculinity". Turns out I started to perform better socially when I hid my feelings and thoughts and tried to emphasize visibly masculine qualities. Too bad I didn't pick up on this till I turned 30, might have enjoyed more friendships and romantic relationships.
- motoxpro 4y agoEh, sounds like you got stuck with the wrong crowd. Avoiding "toxic masculinity" has been absolutely wonderful in both those areas for me.
- acdha 4y agoNothing like this has a single cause but yes. Consider how certain cultural norms for handling emotions, what shows your value as a man, and how you interact with other men would affect the rates for suicide or escalating violence. Grim economic prospects affect many people but if you’ve been told that you’re valuable to the extent that you’re affluent, or that macho posturing is how to respond to perceived disrespect, it’s understandable that some percentage of men will make worse choices than they might in a more supportive culture. Too many men don’t have a close friend to talk them back off the ledge because they thought showing emotions and vulnerability was a female thing or made you gay.
- dudul 4y agoHow are the numbers getting worse as all these "toxic things" are currently falling out of fashion? It is now becoming more acceptable for men to behave that way, why wouldn't the numbers improve then?
- acdha 4y agoFirst, they're far from universally out of fashion — attitudes change unevenly and there's always backlash, and that matters a lot when the attitude shifts are disproportionately driven by college-educated, affluent parents but the crime is not being committed by their children. Second, and more importantly, there's a wicked lag here — gun violence is predominantly a young man's crime so what parents are doing now isn't the question as much as how things were a couple decades ago. Suicide rates peak later, so you might have the question of how, say, many middle-aged white man (the peak demographic) will handle mid-life career or marriage failures based on the values they were raised with (for a lot of us, it was that you're a good man if you earn a solid income so your wife can stay home and your kids want for nothing. Want to guess what's not the case for entirely too many people?).
- antifa 4y agoAs much as you can say it's falling out of fashion, just as many others are "doubling down".
- MrPotatoLover 4y ago
- carl_dr 4y agohttps://archive.ph/B6KEP https://archive.ph/B6KEP
- BirAdam 4y agoSuicide as well as violent crime tend to increase every time the economy weakens. If we add a more atomized individual into that, it makes sense that this would be compounded.
- musicale 4y ago> violent crime tend to increase every time the economy weakens I expect that the ongoing pandemic, social upheaval, political polarization, war, etc. don't lead to a great social/economic/health/mental health environment. Most people probably hadn't previously lived through a situation where millions of people die from contagious disease, the government shuts down businesses and schools, etc.. Besides the pandemic-related social isolation and political and economic fallout, covid itself can have short and long-term affects on your brain.
- AnnoyedComment 4y ago
- tomlockwood 4y agoI wish the suicide rate was factored more into conversations about needing guns for "self-defence".
- throwawayacc4 4y agoI wish the suicide rate was factored more into conversations about taking guns away due to "violent crime".
- tomlockwood 4y agoAbsolutely - the protective aspect of guns against "violent crime" is far outweighed by the risk of someone shooting themselves.
- throwawayacc4 4y agoAbsolutely - the shooting themselves aspect of guns against "taking them away" is far outweighed by the risk of violent crime.
- palmetieri2000 4y agoThis line of arguing isn't nearly as convincing as you think it is.
- throwawayacc4 4y agoWHOOSH This is a selfawarewolves-tier post.
- tomlockwood 4y agoGun owners don't need more guns, they need therapy!
- throwawayacc4 4y ago
- wellthatsawrap1 4y ago