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This seems like a fake story. Didn't he give millions to both parties?

by pfisch 4y ago

notyourwork 4y ago
Can't lose if you are on both teams.
therein 4y ago
No evidence of any donation to republicans.
- keneda7 4y ago
  Yes there is. Plenty. For PACs where most of the money was spent: Left: 44.8 Right: 23.2 https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recipients?id=D000073694&cycle=2022 https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recipients?id=D000073694&cy...
  - therein 4y ago
    Why did he say in his interview the other day that they are dark donations and due to their nature, they will not be observable?
    - keneda7 4y ago
      I had not seen it. This comment just linked me too it. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33809968 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33809968 Unfortunately in my opinion he is not a trustworthy source at all. He lies in that same interview. His own PAC is left. His mom helped found and run another left super PAC. Seems like the family heavily supports one side. I think he has plenty of reason to lie to help out that side. He should have receipts for those donations or at least evidence of them happening. That would at least give some credence to his claim.
      - therein 4y ago
        Yeah, he lies all the time and I agree the support from him and his family seem to heavily support one side over the other. During his interview with Tiffany Fong, he said all his donations to the republican party has been dark but equivalent to what he gave to the democrats. He said they did this because journalists are deep down hardcore liberals and they get spooked when they see you donated to republicans.
xwolfi 4y ago
This sounds like wishful thinking, didnt he pay millions to BOTH parties ? He did play for the winning team, even if he also gave money to some losers. The problem is not how many republicans he paid, it's how many democrats accepted.
- pfisch 4y ago
  Why wouldn't you accept money from someone running a seemingly legitimate business? People invested billions with him, it wasn't obvious ftx was scamming.
keneda7 4y ago
Yes. I linked to the page with donations at the bottom. The most money was spent giving to PACs. If you download the PAC list and sum it up it totals: Left: 44.8 Right: 23.2 So yes millions was given to both parties, but one party received far more. https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recipients?id=D000073694&cycle=2022 https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recipients?id=D000073694&cy...
- fatneckbeardz 4y ago
  SBF himself said he donated the same to Republicans but did it secretly through dark money thanks to Citizens United because he thought Reporters would like him better in other words thanks to Citizens United we have no idea who is funding US political campaigns, and that is by design. So people looking at the open records are only seeing the tip of the iceberg
  - colpabar 4y ago
    > he thought Reporters would like him better He thought right. If there’s one takeaway from this whole debacle, I hope people realize that the mainstream media is inherently dishonest and there’s no reason to trust them by default.
    - EamonnMR 4y ago
      I think the one takeaway might be that Crypto people sre dishonest. The Media didn't fleece their customers out of billions of dollars.
  - keneda7 4y ago
    You happen to have a source for that? I have heard that before but no one has been able to back it up.
    - technosmurf 4y ago
      The source is SBF himself, in an interview with Tiffany Fong (covered by Coffeezilla): https://youtu.be/0rL35_WV3lE?t=77 https://youtu.be/0rL35_WV3lE?t=77 He said he donated about the same to both parties, with the Republican donations hidden as dark money.
jesushax 4y ago
Who says the two parties aren't on the same team? Maybe the winning team is corrupt politicians and the facade of ideology is a marketing gimmick that sells tickets but at the end of the day, the NFL doesn't care whether you buy a the 49ers jersey or the Raiders jersey. Imo the real teams aren't you versus me, it's us versus them.

This seems like a fake story. Didn't he give millions to both parties?

by pfisch 4y ago

This seems like a fake story. Didn't he give millions to both parties?

notyourwork 4y ago

Can't lose if you are on both teams.

therein 4y ago

No evidence of any donation to republicans.

keneda7 4y ago
Yes there is. Plenty. For PACs where most of the money was spent: Left: 44.8 Right: 23.2 https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recipients?id=D000073694&cycle=2022 https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recipients?id=D000073694&cy...
- therein 4y ago
  Why did he say in his interview the other day that they are dark donations and due to their nature, they will not be observable?
  - keneda7 4y ago
    I had not seen it. This comment just linked me too it. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33809968 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33809968 Unfortunately in my opinion he is not a trustworthy source at all. He lies in that same interview. His own PAC is left. His mom helped found and run another left super PAC. Seems like the family heavily supports one side. I think he has plenty of reason to lie to help out that side. He should have receipts for those donations or at least evidence of them happening. That would at least give some credence to his claim.
    - therein 4y ago
      Yeah, he lies all the time and I agree the support from him and his family seem to heavily support one side over the other. During his interview with Tiffany Fong, he said all his donations to the republican party has been dark but equivalent to what he gave to the democrats. He said they did this because journalists are deep down hardcore liberals and they get spooked when they see you donated to republicans.

xwolfi 4y ago

This sounds like wishful thinking, didnt he pay millions to BOTH parties ? He did play for the winning team, even if he also gave money to some losers. The problem is not how many republicans he paid, it's how many democrats accepted.

pfisch 4y ago
Why wouldn't you accept money from someone running a seemingly legitimate business? People invested billions with him, it wasn't obvious ftx was scamming.

keneda7 4y ago

Yes. I linked to the page with donations at the bottom. The most money was spent giving to PACs. If you download the PAC list and sum it up it totals: Left: 44.8 Right: 23.2 So yes millions was given to both parties, but one party received far more. https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recipients?id=D000073694&cycle=2022 https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recipients?id=D000073694&cy...

fatneckbeardz 4y ago
SBF himself said he donated the same to Republicans but did it secretly through dark money thanks to Citizens United because he thought Reporters would like him better in other words thanks to Citizens United we have no idea who is funding US political campaigns, and that is by design. So people looking at the open records are only seeing the tip of the iceberg
- colpabar 4y ago
  > he thought Reporters would like him better He thought right. If there’s one takeaway from this whole debacle, I hope people realize that the mainstream media is inherently dishonest and there’s no reason to trust them by default.
  - EamonnMR 4y ago
    I think the one takeaway might be that Crypto people sre dishonest. The Media didn't fleece their customers out of billions of dollars.
- keneda7 4y ago
  You happen to have a source for that? I have heard that before but no one has been able to back it up.
  - technosmurf 4y ago
    The source is SBF himself, in an interview with Tiffany Fong (covered by Coffeezilla): https://youtu.be/0rL35_WV3lE?t=77 https://youtu.be/0rL35_WV3lE?t=77 He said he donated about the same to both parties, with the Republican donations hidden as dark money.

jesushax 4y ago

Who says the two parties aren't on the same team? Maybe the winning team is corrupt politicians and the facade of ideology is a marketing gimmick that sells tickets but at the end of the day, the NFL doesn't care whether you buy a the 49ers jersey or the Raiders jersey. Imo the real teams aren't you versus me, it's us versus them.