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And you'd still have the choice to install it or not. Android still allows their users to sideload apps, and it hasn't been the apocalypse. The core idea is ch

by m-p-3 4y ago

And you'd still have the choice to install it or not. Android still allows their users to sideload apps, and it hasn't been the apocalypse. The core idea is choice.

dmitrygr 4y ago
- donmcronald 4y ago
  The PC is an open platform and that's allowed for things like Firefox with UBlock Origin and Facebook Container. That's much better than what Apple's doing isn't it? Apple isn't some altruist protecting you from Facebook. The most likely scenario is that Apple wants to be the sole owner of your data so they can sell it instead of Facebook selling it. I bet Apple's ad business grows substantially over the next 5 years.
- lern_too_spel 4y ago
  Despite Android allowing Facebook to create its own store, you can use Facebook on Android and not give them all your data. Even better, you can install apps that aren't allowed in the Play Store or the App Store (like ReVanced, Instander, and Blokada) that change the behavior of the Facebook app to collect less data.
  - Sunspark 4y ago
    My solution for the FB problem is to not use any FB app at all, and just use FB in the mobile browser. Why do I need an app?
- LegitShady 4y ago
  If you want to use facebook, you either use the app or the web site. If you don't want to use the app or the website, don't use facebook. They made it so you have to use an app to use facebook messenger even though before you didn't have to, so I stopped using it and let everyone know you can't find me on facebook messenger. Problem solved.
- sureglymop 4y ago
  First of all, a bit insulting. Secondly, that same freedom also allows you to install a patched Facebook client that doesn't track you at all. On Android you have such freedoms... Recently i wanted to capture app traffic with a man in the middle proxy but for it to work i had to patch the certificate pinning in the apk. In your world however you also might just give all your data to Apple, falsely thinking that Apple is actually protecting you in some way.
tshaddox 4y ago
> Android still allows their users to sideload apps, and it hasn't been the apocalypse. "Not being the apocalypse" is a pretty low bar. Is it not the case that Android has a much worse history of problems with third-party software, including security, privacy, battery life, etc.?
- lern_too_spel 4y ago
  Indeed, it is not the case. Android has far more apps that respect privacy than iOS has, and (unlike iOS) it lets you set them as defaults.

by m-p-3 4y ago

And you'd still have the choice to install it or not. Android still allows their users to sideload apps, and it hasn't been the apocalypse. The core idea is choice.

dmitrygr 4y ago

donmcronald 4y ago
The PC is an open platform and that's allowed for things like Firefox with UBlock Origin and Facebook Container. That's much better than what Apple's doing isn't it? Apple isn't some altruist protecting you from Facebook. The most likely scenario is that Apple wants to be the sole owner of your data so they can sell it instead of Facebook selling it. I bet Apple's ad business grows substantially over the next 5 years.
lern_too_spel 4y ago
Despite Android allowing Facebook to create its own store, you can use Facebook on Android and not give them all your data. Even better, you can install apps that aren't allowed in the Play Store or the App Store (like ReVanced, Instander, and Blokada) that change the behavior of the Facebook app to collect less data.
- Sunspark 4y ago
  My solution for the FB problem is to not use any FB app at all, and just use FB in the mobile browser. Why do I need an app?
LegitShady 4y ago
If you want to use facebook, you either use the app or the web site. If you don't want to use the app or the website, don't use facebook. They made it so you have to use an app to use facebook messenger even though before you didn't have to, so I stopped using it and let everyone know you can't find me on facebook messenger. Problem solved.
sureglymop 4y ago
First of all, a bit insulting. Secondly, that same freedom also allows you to install a patched Facebook client that doesn't track you at all. On Android you have such freedoms... Recently i wanted to capture app traffic with a man in the middle proxy but for it to work i had to patch the certificate pinning in the apk. In your world however you also might just give all your data to Apple, falsely thinking that Apple is actually protecting you in some way.

tshaddox 4y ago

> Android still allows their users to sideload apps, and it hasn't been the apocalypse. "Not being the apocalypse" is a pretty low bar. Is it not the case that Android has a much worse history of problems with third-party software, including security, privacy, battery life, etc.?

lern_too_spel 4y ago
Indeed, it is not the case. Android has far more apps that respect privacy than iOS has, and (unlike iOS) it lets you set them as defaults.