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Yet another way to say that: USA is very friendly to immigrants - it is not a homogeneous society, and there is mutual respect of all religions, faiths, and la

Yet another way to say that: USA is very friendly to immigrants - it is not a homogeneous society, and there is mutual respect of all religions, faiths, and languages. On contrast, I find many populations in EU to be actively hostile towards immigrants (in Germany one will have a difficult time not knowing German, for example). As a result, it is a demand and supply problem. Compare how many are wanting to immigrate to, say, Germany, Austria or Switzerland, as opposed to US.

qwytw 4y ago
Germany, Austria or Switzerland all have higher net immigration per capita than US. According to 2015-2020 average (estimate) more than twice as many people moved to Germany than to US (relative to population of course).
- whydoyoucare 4y ago
  Interesting statistic. Though all three seem so homogeneous, and hence a bit hostile ("integrate into our culture, else..."). Again, I am not saying they are, just that they seem so. Stark difference to the US, with its melting-pot cities... :-)
- int_19h 4y ago
  Does this include temporary workers moving around under EU rules?
- whydoyoucare 4y ago
  A better metric here would be the number of people wanting to immigrate and are in queue. I believe US will come out uncontested winner here! :-D
Spivak 4y ago
The US is very friendly to the immigrated but is very unfriendly to the immigrating.
welder 4y ago
> in Germany one will have a difficult time not knowing German, for example No, that couldn't be farther from the truth. I lived in Germany, and have friends there who still don't know German after 10+ years and never have any problems. If you work in a non-office industry you need German, but in office/tech workplaces nobody knows German.
- kaesar14 4y ago
  I’d honestly not want an immigrant in my country who lives there for 10 years without learning the language. What a way to not make any effort to integrate into your chosen society.
  - whydoyoucare 4y ago
    In my experience, integration into a society is a gradual process with no well-defined boundaries. Maybe this is where US and many seemingly homogeneous EU countries differ?
    - kaesar14 4y ago
      Even if it was a “gradual” process it’s 10+ years. How do you talk to the people of that nation without learning any English? What about anything to do with documentation or the government? Integrating into a society can mean many things but the FIRST step of that should be learning the local language to be able to talk to locals. By the way, I’m American. Anyone who lives here for that long without learning English is what I’m talking about.
      - throw_nbvc1234 4y ago
        Because a large percentage of Germans probably speak English so you can still communicate with them without learning German. This is not the same as a single language country.
        kaesar14 4y ago
ulfw 4y ago
What a silly and 100% incorrect statement. Do you truly believe someone not capable of speaking English is not being discriminated in the US? Seriously now?

qwytw 4y ago

Germany, Austria or Switzerland all have higher net immigration per capita than US. According to 2015-2020 average (estimate) more than twice as many people moved to Germany than to US (relative to population of course).

whydoyoucare 4y ago
Interesting statistic. Though all three seem so homogeneous, and hence a bit hostile ("integrate into our culture, else..."). Again, I am not saying they are, just that they seem so. Stark difference to the US, with its melting-pot cities... :-)
int_19h 4y ago
Does this include temporary workers moving around under EU rules?
whydoyoucare 4y ago
A better metric here would be the number of people wanting to immigrate and are in queue. I believe US will come out uncontested winner here! :-D

Spivak 4y ago

The US is very friendly to the immigrated but is very unfriendly to the immigrating.

welder 4y ago

> in Germany one will have a difficult time not knowing German, for example No, that couldn't be farther from the truth. I lived in Germany, and have friends there who still don't know German after 10+ years and never have any problems. If you work in a non-office industry you need German, but in office/tech workplaces nobody knows German.

kaesar14 4y ago
I’d honestly not want an immigrant in my country who lives there for 10 years without learning the language. What a way to not make any effort to integrate into your chosen society.
- whydoyoucare 4y ago
  In my experience, integration into a society is a gradual process with no well-defined boundaries. Maybe this is where US and many seemingly homogeneous EU countries differ?
  - kaesar14 4y ago
    Even if it was a “gradual” process it’s 10+ years. How do you talk to the people of that nation without learning any English? What about anything to do with documentation or the government? Integrating into a society can mean many things but the FIRST step of that should be learning the local language to be able to talk to locals. By the way, I’m American. Anyone who lives here for that long without learning English is what I’m talking about.
    - throw_nbvc1234 4y ago
      Because a large percentage of Germans probably speak English so you can still communicate with them without learning German. This is not the same as a single language country.
      - kaesar14 4y ago

ulfw 4y ago

What a silly and 100% incorrect statement. Do you truly believe someone not capable of speaking English is not being discriminated in the US? Seriously now?