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Elon is pretty clearly unbanning violent right-wing extremists while banning rule-following accounts on the left, sometimes transparently at the direction of th

Elon is pretty clearly unbanning violent right-wing extremists while banning rule-following accounts on the left, sometimes transparently at the direction of the right wingers. Why do you insist on pretending anything else?

memish 4y ago
Speaking of "pretending", that is false on both counts.
- cyberphobe 4y ago
  excellent argument, you sure changed my mind
  - deleted 4y ago
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  - hatefulmoron 4y ago
    Can't you see the irony in this when you didn't offer any evidence?
- d23 4y ago
  He unbanned a right wing extremist who attempted to use Twitter to overthrow the government.
- jeffbee 4y ago
  Twitter 2.0 is banning accounts as soon as Andy Ngo, the galaxy's biggest liar, demands they be banned. https://theintercept.com/2022/11/29/elon-musk-twitter-andy-ngo-antifascist/ https://theintercept.com/2022/11/29/elon-musk-twitter-andy-n...
  - memish 4y ago
    I don't see how you reached that conclusion. If you look at the referenced thread, he was reporting accounts that were inciting violence.
    - jeffbee 4y ago
      The article describes Ngo's claims as "misleading, factually incorrect". Which would be in keeping with literally everything Ngo has ever written.
      - memish 4y ago
        The article is misleading. You can go look at the thread to see for yourself.
toolz 4y ago
Which rule following accounts on the left have been banned since musk bought the company? I only know of a couple accounts that were banned for very clearly violating terms of service, i.e. impersonating other people. I personally don't agree with even those bans, but I am curious to know which rule followers were banned.
- cyberphobe 4y ago
  https://www.newsweek.com/activists-accuse-elon-musk-banning-anti-fascist-accounts-twitter-1761957 https://www.newsweek.com/activists-accuse-elon-musk-banning-... mentions a few, although there are far more.
  - spamuel 4y ago
    You need to be more specific - he wasn't banning George Takei or Occupy Democrats. He banned ANTIFA accounts that were being used to plan "direct action", ie: riots. Something that was previously against Twitter's TOS, but it wasn't being enforced specifically against ANTIFA accounts because Twitter employees were sympathetic to the cause.
    - trs8080 4y ago
      Answered above, reproducing for you here: "As the Los Angeles City Councilmember Mike Bonin noted on Twitter, the suspended users include Chad Loder, an antifascist researcher whose open-source investigation of the U.S. Capitol riot led to the identification and arrest of a masked Proud Boy who attacked police officers. The account of video journalist Vishal Pratap Singh, who reports on far-right protests in Southern California, has also been suspended." "All four accounts had been singled out for criticism by Andy Ngo, a far-right writer whose conspiratorial, error-riddled reporting on left-wing protests and social movements fuels the mass delusion that a handful of small antifascist groups are part of an imaginary shadow army called “antifa.” In a public exchange on Twitter on Friday, Musk invited Ngo to report “Antifa accounts” that should be suspended directly to him." https://theintercept.com/2022/11/29/elon-musk-twitter-andy-n https://theintercept.com/2022/11/29/elon-musk-twitter-andy-n...
bluescrn 4y ago
Same game as always, but now the other team now has the ball. With a propaganda weapon as powerful as Twitter, it's probably better for everybody if it's destroyed, rather than continues to be used/abused to escalate political divisions by either side of the great divide. And that seems to be the way things are going. It should never have been taken so seriously to begin with.
- cyberphobe 4y ago
  By what metric was Twitter previously controlled by the "other team", by which you presumably the far left? Before Elon owned them, they were bending over backwards to allow right wing accounts ([0] for example), and they frequently banned left wing accounts that at all went afoul of the rules [0]: https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-algorithm-crackdown-white-supremacy-gop-politicians-report-2019-4?op=1 https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-algorithm-crackdown-...
- chasd00 4y ago
  > it's probably better for everybody if it's destroyed At first I hoped Musk would see the nightmare, give up, just pull the plug, and go home. I think that's out though, now I hope it collapses under its own weight. Hope dies last.

memish 4y ago

Speaking of "pretending", that is false on both counts.

cyberphobe 4y ago
excellent argument, you sure changed my mind
- deleted 4y ago
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- hatefulmoron 4y ago
  Can't you see the irony in this when you didn't offer any evidence?
d23 4y ago
He unbanned a right wing extremist who attempted to use Twitter to overthrow the government.
jeffbee 4y ago
Twitter 2.0 is banning accounts as soon as Andy Ngo, the galaxy's biggest liar, demands they be banned. https://theintercept.com/2022/11/29/elon-musk-twitter-andy-ngo-antifascist/ https://theintercept.com/2022/11/29/elon-musk-twitter-andy-n...
- memish 4y ago
  I don't see how you reached that conclusion. If you look at the referenced thread, he was reporting accounts that were inciting violence.
  - jeffbee 4y ago
    The article describes Ngo's claims as "misleading, factually incorrect". Which would be in keeping with literally everything Ngo has ever written.
    - memish 4y ago
      The article is misleading. You can go look at the thread to see for yourself.

toolz 4y ago

Which rule following accounts on the left have been banned since musk bought the company? I only know of a couple accounts that were banned for very clearly violating terms of service, i.e. impersonating other people. I personally don't agree with even those bans, but I am curious to know which rule followers were banned.

cyberphobe 4y ago
https://www.newsweek.com/activists-accuse-elon-musk-banning-anti-fascist-accounts-twitter-1761957 https://www.newsweek.com/activists-accuse-elon-musk-banning-... mentions a few, although there are far more.
- spamuel 4y ago
  You need to be more specific - he wasn't banning George Takei or Occupy Democrats. He banned ANTIFA accounts that were being used to plan "direct action", ie: riots. Something that was previously against Twitter's TOS, but it wasn't being enforced specifically against ANTIFA accounts because Twitter employees were sympathetic to the cause.
  - trs8080 4y ago
    Answered above, reproducing for you here: "As the Los Angeles City Councilmember Mike Bonin noted on Twitter, the suspended users include Chad Loder, an antifascist researcher whose open-source investigation of the U.S. Capitol riot led to the identification and arrest of a masked Proud Boy who attacked police officers. The account of video journalist Vishal Pratap Singh, who reports on far-right protests in Southern California, has also been suspended." "All four accounts had been singled out for criticism by Andy Ngo, a far-right writer whose conspiratorial, error-riddled reporting on left-wing protests and social movements fuels the mass delusion that a handful of small antifascist groups are part of an imaginary shadow army called “antifa.” In a public exchange on Twitter on Friday, Musk invited Ngo to report “Antifa accounts” that should be suspended directly to him." https://theintercept.com/2022/11/29/elon-musk-twitter-andy-n https://theintercept.com/2022/11/29/elon-musk-twitter-andy-n...

bluescrn 4y ago

Same game as always, but now the other team now has the ball. With a propaganda weapon as powerful as Twitter, it's probably better for everybody if it's destroyed, rather than continues to be used/abused to escalate political divisions by either side of the great divide. And that seems to be the way things are going. It should never have been taken so seriously to begin with.

cyberphobe 4y ago
By what metric was Twitter previously controlled by the "other team", by which you presumably the far left? Before Elon owned them, they were bending over backwards to allow right wing accounts ([0] for example), and they frequently banned left wing accounts that at all went afoul of the rules [0]: https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-algorithm-crackdown-white-supremacy-gop-politicians-report-2019-4?op=1 https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-algorithm-crackdown-...
chasd00 4y ago
> it's probably better for everybody if it's destroyed At first I hoped Musk would see the nightmare, give up, just pull the plug, and go home. I think that's out though, now I hope it collapses under its own weight. Hope dies last.