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/shrug, depends on how people view the problem. Smaller communities can be more focused and managed. Trying to get everyone in one place agreeing on one set of

/shrug, depends on how people view the problem. Smaller communities can be more focused and managed. Trying to get everyone in one place agreeing on one set of rules sounds impossible. At least federation has the potential to let groups exist differently as desired.

phpisthebest 4y ago
That is the thing, people do not go to twitter to be in "Small Focused Community" They do it to interact with the globe, and the more people on that network the better it is. There are a million ways to create a niche site (like hacker news) that allows a Small Focused Community to interact, that is not a replacement for Twitter
- lijogdfljk 4y ago
  Agreed, but that's kinda the point in my eyes. Maybe a global forum with no moderation everyone can agree with is a bad thing? Ie maybe it makes everyone unhappy? Everyone was on Facebook too. We're not all looking for Facebook 2.0 currently, are we? Yea, we have different form factors of social networks, definitely. But some (not all!) of the core features of Facebook were misguided or mismanaged. Some features of Facebook aren't looking to be replaced. I'm not saying Mastodon is a replacement for Twitter. I'm simply saying maybe some features of Twitter aren't worth being replaced for many people.
  - phpisthebest 4y ago
    >>Maybe a global forum with no moderation everyone can agree with is a bad thing? Ie maybe it makes everyone unhappy? I do not agree, and it does not make me unhappy at all. I am late 70's child, I experienced the Wild West of the internet, nothing posted to twitter (or the chan's for that matter) shock me, or makes me unhappy I think people need thicker skin, and maybe more anonymity not less... Censorship is not the solution, never has been in history and never will be in the future.
    - lijogdfljk 4y ago
      > I do not agree, and it does not make me unhappy at all. I am late 70's child, I experienced the Wild West of the internet, nothing posted to twitter (or the chan's for that matter) shock me, or makes me unhappy Yea, i did say "everyone" but i didn't actually mean everyone. Lots of people enjoy Facebook in all it's glory, too. > Censorship is not the solution, never has been in history and never will be in the future. My comment wasn't about Censorship, though. It was about people and a possibility that they may prefer categorized focused communities like many of us grew up with. Which may or may not include moderation (aka "censorship") I certainly enjoyed the forums of old more than the modern day global scroll feed. But i prefer focused/categorized content, clearly. My point wasn't that you do or don't. Merely to pose a question. A question (among many) that could dictate whether or not the Forums of old have a place in the modern day. Whether or not the global attention draw that is Twitter is actually desired. edit: Desired enough to keep it alive and "successful", at least.
    - jaredcwhite 4y ago
      > I think people need thicker skin What a ridiculous thing to say. Actually plenty of us (and I've also been on the internet for many decades now) would like to hop online to engage with some cool folks about [insert interesting topic here] without having utter garbage and dreck thrown up in our faces like racism, transphobia, misogyny, bigotry, etc., etc.
      - phpisthebest 4y ago
        Well it is good thing for you all major platforms have the ablity to block, mute, or otherwise curate your experience, including sharing "block lists" and other innovations so your personal experience is what you make it to be I support giving people the power to create their own echo chambers and safe spaces, feel free to do so.. No one should be forced to communicate with anyone they do not want to, however you also should not be able to prevent me from communicating with others that I desire to >>What a ridiculous thing to say Not really, it is sad parents have stopped teaching "Sticks and Stones my break my bones but words will never harm me" We really have lost the cultural axiom "I may hate what you say, but I will defend your right to say it" haven't we.

phpisthebest 4y ago

That is the thing, people do not go to twitter to be in "Small Focused Community" They do it to interact with the globe, and the more people on that network the better it is. There are a million ways to create a niche site (like hacker news) that allows a Small Focused Community to interact, that is not a replacement for Twitter

lijogdfljk 4y ago
Agreed, but that's kinda the point in my eyes. Maybe a global forum with no moderation everyone can agree with is a bad thing? Ie maybe it makes everyone unhappy? Everyone was on Facebook too. We're not all looking for Facebook 2.0 currently, are we? Yea, we have different form factors of social networks, definitely. But some (not all!) of the core features of Facebook were misguided or mismanaged. Some features of Facebook aren't looking to be replaced. I'm not saying Mastodon is a replacement for Twitter. I'm simply saying maybe some features of Twitter aren't worth being replaced for many people.
- phpisthebest 4y ago
  >>Maybe a global forum with no moderation everyone can agree with is a bad thing? Ie maybe it makes everyone unhappy? I do not agree, and it does not make me unhappy at all. I am late 70's child, I experienced the Wild West of the internet, nothing posted to twitter (or the chan's for that matter) shock me, or makes me unhappy I think people need thicker skin, and maybe more anonymity not less... Censorship is not the solution, never has been in history and never will be in the future.
  - lijogdfljk 4y ago
    > I do not agree, and it does not make me unhappy at all. I am late 70's child, I experienced the Wild West of the internet, nothing posted to twitter (or the chan's for that matter) shock me, or makes me unhappy Yea, i did say "everyone" but i didn't actually mean everyone. Lots of people enjoy Facebook in all it's glory, too. > Censorship is not the solution, never has been in history and never will be in the future. My comment wasn't about Censorship, though. It was about people and a possibility that they may prefer categorized focused communities like many of us grew up with. Which may or may not include moderation (aka "censorship") I certainly enjoyed the forums of old more than the modern day global scroll feed. But i prefer focused/categorized content, clearly. My point wasn't that you do or don't. Merely to pose a question. A question (among many) that could dictate whether or not the Forums of old have a place in the modern day. Whether or not the global attention draw that is Twitter is actually desired. edit: Desired enough to keep it alive and "successful", at least.
  - jaredcwhite 4y ago
    > I think people need thicker skin What a ridiculous thing to say. Actually plenty of us (and I've also been on the internet for many decades now) would like to hop online to engage with some cool folks about [insert interesting topic here] without having utter garbage and dreck thrown up in our faces like racism, transphobia, misogyny, bigotry, etc., etc.
    - phpisthebest 4y ago
      Well it is good thing for you all major platforms have the ablity to block, mute, or otherwise curate your experience, including sharing "block lists" and other innovations so your personal experience is what you make it to be I support giving people the power to create their own echo chambers and safe spaces, feel free to do so.. No one should be forced to communicate with anyone they do not want to, however you also should not be able to prevent me from communicating with others that I desire to >>What a ridiculous thing to say Not really, it is sad parents have stopped teaching "Sticks and Stones my break my bones but words will never harm me" We really have lost the cultural axiom "I may hate what you say, but I will defend your right to say it" haven't we.