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> I've been laid of with no severance... [but with] 70% of my salary guaranteed Uhh, yeah obviously that felt like a vacation.

lm28469 4y ago
Isn't it the norm pretty much everywhere in the west ? I'd have been fine with 30% or so with my lifestyle
- ganoushoreilly 4y ago
  No, at least not in the us. There are caps and in most instances it’s close to $300-400 a week max with a limit on how many weeks you can claim.
- mrtranscendence 4y ago
  > Isn't it the norm pretty much everywhere in the west ? In my US state (Ohio), weekly benefits for those without dependents cap out at $530. That's about 19% of my current salary. It would be barely enough to cover my mortgage and utilities, but throw in the car (payment / gas / insurance), groceries, incidentals ... I'd be in trouble. (And unlike some of the forward-thinking individuals who've posted here, I don't have several years' worth of savings to rely on.) Edit: and if, god forbid, I became disabled ... my government-provided benefits would be something like $150 a week. They may as well give me a kiss on the cheek for all the good that amount would do for me.
- smileysteve 4y ago
  No, definitely not in the US. I was last laid off in 2015 by a large media company, we received only 1 month of severance. (Which was 1.5 months paychecks because they paid in arrears) Severance and notice of small scale layoffs (company under 50) has no protection in most states. 8 person company offered no severance, but we had a pretty good sense it was coming a month away.
  - amrocha 4y ago
    - dionidium 4y ago
      This is boring flamebait. We all know there are differences in employment contracts between different parts of the world. This comment adds nothing to that discussion but a useless insult.
      - amrocha 4y ago
        This isn't "flamebait", it's literally how the rest of the world perceives the US
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        ethanbond 4y ago
        Yes this is self-evident by the 48 million immigrants who live here. Incontrovertibly proved by the people who walk across continents to get here.
        lm28469 4y ago
        Meh it's a bit more complex than that, once you remove people coming from third world country and people coming for the top 1% jobs you're not left with many people
        amrocha 4y ago
        That doesn't prove anything. Yes, people would rather live in the US than in India, China, or Mexico. In those places the floor is just as bad as the US, but the ceiling is way harder to reach. With a working class salary in the US you can support your entire family in Mexico. That's worth living in a shithole for. The European immigrants have a plan B. Yes, the US sucks, but they're only here for the money and can go home anytime they want. Don't kid yourself, nobody chooses to live in the US because they think it's better than Europe.
- kayodelycaon 4y ago
  Definitely not. This last couple of years Ohio really fucked a lot of people I know. The state would not respond to claims and their system would automatically close “old” claims. You couldn’t refile or reopen the claim after this happened. The phone system would play a 6 minute message and then hang up. Taking the state to court for this while also trying to get a job would be difficult.
wheels 4y ago
It's capped at about €2000/month, but one thing making up the 30% there is that it's income tax-free, and your health insurance payments are a lot less (since they're income based).

lm28469 4y ago

Isn't it the norm pretty much everywhere in the west ? I'd have been fine with 30% or so with my lifestyle

ganoushoreilly 4y ago
No, at least not in the us. There are caps and in most instances it’s close to $300-400 a week max with a limit on how many weeks you can claim.
mrtranscendence 4y ago
> Isn't it the norm pretty much everywhere in the west ? In my US state (Ohio), weekly benefits for those without dependents cap out at $530. That's about 19% of my current salary. It would be barely enough to cover my mortgage and utilities, but throw in the car (payment / gas / insurance), groceries, incidentals ... I'd be in trouble. (And unlike some of the forward-thinking individuals who've posted here, I don't have several years' worth of savings to rely on.) Edit: and if, god forbid, I became disabled ... my government-provided benefits would be something like $150 a week. They may as well give me a kiss on the cheek for all the good that amount would do for me.
smileysteve 4y ago
No, definitely not in the US. I was last laid off in 2015 by a large media company, we received only 1 month of severance. (Which was 1.5 months paychecks because they paid in arrears) Severance and notice of small scale layoffs (company under 50) has no protection in most states. 8 person company offered no severance, but we had a pretty good sense it was coming a month away.
- amrocha 4y ago
  - dionidium 4y ago
    This is boring flamebait. We all know there are differences in employment contracts between different parts of the world. This comment adds nothing to that discussion but a useless insult.
    - amrocha 4y ago
      This isn't "flamebait", it's literally how the rest of the world perceives the US
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      - ethanbond 4y ago
        Yes this is self-evident by the 48 million immigrants who live here. Incontrovertibly proved by the people who walk across continents to get here.
        lm28469 4y ago
        Meh it's a bit more complex than that, once you remove people coming from third world country and people coming for the top 1% jobs you're not left with many people
        amrocha 4y ago
        That doesn't prove anything. Yes, people would rather live in the US than in India, China, or Mexico. In those places the floor is just as bad as the US, but the ceiling is way harder to reach. With a working class salary in the US you can support your entire family in Mexico. That's worth living in a shithole for. The European immigrants have a plan B. Yes, the US sucks, but they're only here for the money and can go home anytime they want. Don't kid yourself, nobody chooses to live in the US because they think it's better than Europe.
kayodelycaon 4y ago
Definitely not. This last couple of years Ohio really fucked a lot of people I know. The state would not respond to claims and their system would automatically close “old” claims. You couldn’t refile or reopen the claim after this happened. The phone system would play a 6 minute message and then hang up. Taking the state to court for this while also trying to get a job would be difficult.

wheels 4y ago

It's capped at about €2000/month, but one thing making up the 30% there is that it's income tax-free, and your health insurance payments are a lot less (since they're income based).