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> I can tell you've never been laid off before, because even with severance it doesn't feel like a "long vacation". I've been laid off with no severance and it

> I can tell you've never been laid off before, because even with severance it doesn't feel like a "long vacation". I've been laid off with no severance and it felt like vacation, so it might depends on your specific situation. It was my first job, in Germany, 70% of so of my salary guaranteed as unemployment benefits. I didn't look for a job for like six months, I could have used the full 12 months as I was more than cash positive and still managed to save 40% of my income without changing my lifestyle, it took me two weeks to find a new one. That being said I'm not a "study for interview" kind of dude, life's too short to grind for that imho

ethanbond 4y ago
> I've been laid of with no severance... [but with] 70% of my salary guaranteed Uhh, yeah obviously that felt like a vacation.
- lm28469 4y ago
  Isn't it the norm pretty much everywhere in the west ? I'd have been fine with 30% or so with my lifestyle
  - ganoushoreilly 4y ago
    No, at least not in the us. There are caps and in most instances it’s close to $300-400 a week max with a limit on how many weeks you can claim.
  - mrtranscendence 4y ago
    > Isn't it the norm pretty much everywhere in the west ? In my US state (Ohio), weekly benefits for those without dependents cap out at $530. That's about 19% of my current salary. It would be barely enough to cover my mortgage and utilities, but throw in the car (payment / gas / insurance), groceries, incidentals ... I'd be in trouble. (And unlike some of the forward-thinking individuals who've posted here, I don't have several years' worth of savings to rely on.) Edit: and if, god forbid, I became disabled ... my government-provided benefits would be something like $150 a week. They may as well give me a kiss on the cheek for all the good that amount would do for me.
  - smileysteve 4y ago
    No, definitely not in the US. I was last laid off in 2015 by a large media company, we received only 1 month of severance. (Which was 1.5 months paychecks because they paid in arrears) Severance and notice of small scale layoffs (company under 50) has no protection in most states. 8 person company offered no severance, but we had a pretty good sense it was coming a month away.
    - amrocha 4y ago
      - dionidium 4y ago
        This is boring flamebait. We all know there are differences in employment contracts between different parts of the world. This comment adds nothing to that discussion but a useless insult.
        amrocha 4y ago
        This isn't "flamebait", it's literally how the rest of the world perceives the US
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        ethanbond 4y ago
        Yes this is self-evident by the 48 million immigrants who live here. Incontrovertibly proved by the people who walk across continents to get here.
        lm28469 4y ago
        Meh it's a bit more complex than that, once you remove people coming from third world country and people coming for the top 1% jobs you're not left with many people
  - kayodelycaon 4y ago
    Definitely not. This last couple of years Ohio really fucked a lot of people I know. The state would not respond to claims and their system would automatically close “old” claims. You couldn’t refile or reopen the claim after this happened. The phone system would play a 6 minute message and then hang up. Taking the state to court for this while also trying to get a job would be difficult.
- wheels 4y ago
  It's capped at about €2000/month, but one thing making up the 30% there is that it's income tax-free, and your health insurance payments are a lot less (since they're income based).

ethanbond 4y ago

> I've been laid of with no severance... [but with] 70% of my salary guaranteed Uhh, yeah obviously that felt like a vacation.

lm28469 4y ago
Isn't it the norm pretty much everywhere in the west ? I'd have been fine with 30% or so with my lifestyle
- ganoushoreilly 4y ago
  No, at least not in the us. There are caps and in most instances it’s close to $300-400 a week max with a limit on how many weeks you can claim.
- mrtranscendence 4y ago
  > Isn't it the norm pretty much everywhere in the west ? In my US state (Ohio), weekly benefits for those without dependents cap out at $530. That's about 19% of my current salary. It would be barely enough to cover my mortgage and utilities, but throw in the car (payment / gas / insurance), groceries, incidentals ... I'd be in trouble. (And unlike some of the forward-thinking individuals who've posted here, I don't have several years' worth of savings to rely on.) Edit: and if, god forbid, I became disabled ... my government-provided benefits would be something like $150 a week. They may as well give me a kiss on the cheek for all the good that amount would do for me.
- smileysteve 4y ago
  No, definitely not in the US. I was last laid off in 2015 by a large media company, we received only 1 month of severance. (Which was 1.5 months paychecks because they paid in arrears) Severance and notice of small scale layoffs (company under 50) has no protection in most states. 8 person company offered no severance, but we had a pretty good sense it was coming a month away.
  - amrocha 4y ago
    - dionidium 4y ago
      This is boring flamebait. We all know there are differences in employment contracts between different parts of the world. This comment adds nothing to that discussion but a useless insult.
      - amrocha 4y ago
        This isn't "flamebait", it's literally how the rest of the world perceives the US
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        ethanbond 4y ago
        Yes this is self-evident by the 48 million immigrants who live here. Incontrovertibly proved by the people who walk across continents to get here.
        lm28469 4y ago
        Meh it's a bit more complex than that, once you remove people coming from third world country and people coming for the top 1% jobs you're not left with many people
- kayodelycaon 4y ago
  Definitely not. This last couple of years Ohio really fucked a lot of people I know. The state would not respond to claims and their system would automatically close “old” claims. You couldn’t refile or reopen the claim after this happened. The phone system would play a 6 minute message and then hang up. Taking the state to court for this while also trying to get a job would be difficult.
wheels 4y ago
It's capped at about €2000/month, but one thing making up the 30% there is that it's income tax-free, and your health insurance payments are a lot less (since they're income based).