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> Should private speech in the home have consequences? Speech that not only did you not mean to make public, but you didn't even realize could possibly become p

> Should private speech in the home have consequences? Speech that not only did you not mean to make public, but you didn't even realize could possibly become public? What do you think about the (former) NFL team owner whose voicemail containing racial slurs was leaked. It was not supposed to become public: should he not have faced any consequences for it on that basis? IIRC, he was forced to sell his franchise by the other teams.

jaywalk 4y ago
You're talking about the former owner of the NBA's Los Angeles Clippers, Donald Sterling. Not an NFL owner.
- sangnoir 4y ago
  Thank you, I was recalling off the top of my head and mixed up the leagues.
  - Tommah 4y ago
    Something similar happened with the Carolina Panthers in the NFL. The owner sold the team because of allegations that he was saying racist and sexist things, although there was no recording of him AFAIK. https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/18/facing-misconduct-investigation-panthers-owner-selling-team.html https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/18/facing-misconduct-investigat...
throwaway23597 4y ago
It's an interesting case, for sure. I'm not familiar with the specifics, but I think a key variable is how exactly the conversation was leaked. If the receiver of the voicemail leaked it, that's a consequence that the owner should have been prepared for - that sort of thing happens all the time, like with Alec Baldwin. If it was the phone company that leaked it, then I think that is a different story. Abusing data from a platform advertised as private, perpetrated by someone who does not even know the people in question, is wrong. Nobody is prepared for the consequences of petabytes of conversation data to be analyzed by random people they don't even know. This is the situation I'm more concerned about.

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> Should private speech in the home have consequences? Speech that not only did you not mean to make public, but you didn't even realize could possibly become p

by sangnoir 4y ago

jaywalk 4y ago
You're talking about the former owner of the NBA's Los Angeles Clippers, Donald Sterling. Not an NFL owner.
- sangnoir 4y ago
  Thank you, I was recalling off the top of my head and mixed up the leagues.
  - Tommah 4y ago
    Something similar happened with the Carolina Panthers in the NFL. The owner sold the team because of allegations that he was saying racist and sexist things, although there was no recording of him AFAIK. https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/18/facing-misconduct-investigation-panthers-owner-selling-team.html https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/18/facing-misconduct-investigat...
throwaway23597 4y ago
It's an interesting case, for sure. I'm not familiar with the specifics, but I think a key variable is how exactly the conversation was leaked. If the receiver of the voicemail leaked it, that's a consequence that the owner should have been prepared for - that sort of thing happens all the time, like with Alec Baldwin. If it was the phone company that leaked it, then I think that is a different story. Abusing data from a platform advertised as private, perpetrated by someone who does not even know the people in question, is wrong. Nobody is prepared for the consequences of petabytes of conversation data to be analyzed by random people they don't even know. This is the situation I'm more concerned about.