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that and it costs like $40 to order a burger, I was a regular customer at one point and I rarely hit the order button now after seeing the price

dmamills 4y ago
Undercut competition by burning raised capital. Then once you've got the market share, you boil the frogs you gathered. I believe the euphemism around these parts is "disruption".
- quickthrower2 4y ago
  Unfortunately for them, you can go walk (or drive) and get a burger! I quite enjoy phoning through an order and picking it up like it’s 1986!
  - boring_twenties 4y ago
    Near my old place, there's a poke place that simply refuses to take orders over the phone. They do do doordash, though.
    - quickthrower2 4y ago
      New startup: we take your orders on the phone and order with doordash. For this we give you a 30% discount funded by VC.
ProjectArcturis 4y ago
With those enormous fees, how were they not profitable?
- anm89 4y ago
  This is the reality of the astoundingly terrible business of food delivery. Take something with already razor thin margins, add multiple layers of middle men each with their own overhead and create the amazing situation where the product is incredibly expensive but most of the middle man take either low or no margins and the delivery person collects a rent but then loses that right away on vehicle maintenance and gas in many cases. It's the biggest lose lose lose lose of all time. The only real winner is the government who collects tax on this net loss of a transaction. This is also why direct delivery like a pizza shop or chinese place with its own delivery drivers works but the app delivery model doesn't.
  - sawert 4y ago
    Ya, agreed. The model is truly terrible. Too many constituents with a very limited pie
  - yrnameer 4y ago
    Sadly in some areas Uber eats and such have caused mom n pop delivery to disappear. There's a chain in Los Angeles, Lucifer's Pizza, which no longer offers delivery. If you call them up they tell you to use an app to order.
    - heleninboodler 4y ago
      Papa John's in my area transparently subs delivery out to doordash now, and the experience is terrible. The drivers don't get tips (unless I happen to have cash, which I never do) and the pizzas arrive cold (presumably because they're trying to batch a lot of pizzas up in a single trip). I've given up on it.
Rapzid 4y ago
And on top of all the fees the services expect you to tip their drivers. I generally hate tipping culture but don't mind tipping. However with food delivery I'm LITERALLY paying more precisely for the delivery..

dmamills 4y ago

Undercut competition by burning raised capital. Then once you've got the market share, you boil the frogs you gathered. I believe the euphemism around these parts is "disruption".

quickthrower2 4y ago
Unfortunately for them, you can go walk (or drive) and get a burger! I quite enjoy phoning through an order and picking it up like it’s 1986!
- boring_twenties 4y ago
  Near my old place, there's a poke place that simply refuses to take orders over the phone. They do do doordash, though.
  - quickthrower2 4y ago
    New startup: we take your orders on the phone and order with doordash. For this we give you a 30% discount funded by VC.

ProjectArcturis 4y ago

With those enormous fees, how were they not profitable?

anm89 4y ago
This is the reality of the astoundingly terrible business of food delivery. Take something with already razor thin margins, add multiple layers of middle men each with their own overhead and create the amazing situation where the product is incredibly expensive but most of the middle man take either low or no margins and the delivery person collects a rent but then loses that right away on vehicle maintenance and gas in many cases. It's the biggest lose lose lose lose of all time. The only real winner is the government who collects tax on this net loss of a transaction. This is also why direct delivery like a pizza shop or chinese place with its own delivery drivers works but the app delivery model doesn't.
- sawert 4y ago
  Ya, agreed. The model is truly terrible. Too many constituents with a very limited pie
- yrnameer 4y ago
  Sadly in some areas Uber eats and such have caused mom n pop delivery to disappear. There's a chain in Los Angeles, Lucifer's Pizza, which no longer offers delivery. If you call them up they tell you to use an app to order.
  - heleninboodler 4y ago
    Papa John's in my area transparently subs delivery out to doordash now, and the experience is terrible. The drivers don't get tips (unless I happen to have cash, which I never do) and the pizzas arrive cold (presumably because they're trying to batch a lot of pizzas up in a single trip). I've given up on it.

Rapzid 4y ago

And on top of all the fees the services expect you to tip their drivers. I generally hate tipping culture but don't mind tipping. However with food delivery I'm LITERALLY paying more precisely for the delivery..