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The US compares relatively well because, despite having comprehensive education, the system is also designed to segregate schooling areas. In Europe, bullying

The US compares relatively well because, despite having comprehensive education, the system is also designed to segregate schooling areas. In Europe, bullying is worst in countries with comprehensive systems (UK/Nordics/Eastern Europe, unsurprisingly they are countries that have left-wing education systems built for the social justice goals of adults, not learning outcomes of kids). I believe it is as bad or worse in Asia although for different reasons. Btw, there are also quite good stats about sexual violence against girls and, unfortunately, you actually see these levels are highest in comprehensive systems in Europe. This is likely due to under-reporting elsewhere but it is very strange to see somewhere like the UK come out worse than Afghanistan in violence against girls. I think people should also ask why this kind of stuff isn't known (again, it is because schools are designed for social justice for adults, not for kids...it is an unfortunate reality of our world).

wwweston 4y ago
> UK/Nordics/Eastern Europe, unsurprisingly they are countries that have left-wing education systems built for the social justice goals of adults, not learning outcomes of kid Learning outcome rankings are commonly pretty high for UK and the Nordics -- there's a number of metrics, and some asian countries come out outlier strong depending on the test, but it's pretty common to find Finland, Sweden, and the UK in the top, and Finland in particular seems pretty enviable by a number of standards. Also, learning outcomes for kids are social justice goals -- people who think of their social values/goals in those terms (vs people who use "social justice" as a drive-by disparaging/othering term to signal their own ideological allegiances) are almost always concerned with broadening positive educational outcomes. Perhaps you don't share those goals, or perhaps you believe that some social movements are promoting policy that isn't well-optimized for those goals, but it's entirely false to state that they're mutually exclusive. And as they say, "citation needed" for stats about bullying or sexual violence.

wwweston 4y ago

> UK/Nordics/Eastern Europe, unsurprisingly they are countries that have left-wing education systems built for the social justice goals of adults, not learning outcomes of kid Learning outcome rankings are commonly pretty high for UK and the Nordics -- there's a number of metrics, and some asian countries come out outlier strong depending on the test, but it's pretty common to find Finland, Sweden, and the UK in the top, and Finland in particular seems pretty enviable by a number of standards. Also, learning outcomes for kids are social justice goals -- people who think of their social values/goals in those terms (vs people who use "social justice" as a drive-by disparaging/othering term to signal their own ideological allegiances) are almost always concerned with broadening positive educational outcomes. Perhaps you don't share those goals, or perhaps you believe that some social movements are promoting policy that isn't well-optimized for those goals, but it's entirely false to state that they're mutually exclusive. And as they say, "citation needed" for stats about bullying or sexual violence.