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Id say its not the lack of empathy that you feel, but maybe the non trivial effort to normalize morbid obesity that is met with hostility. We should not celebr

Id say its not the lack of empathy that you feel, but maybe the non trivial effort to normalize morbid obesity that is met with hostility. We should not celebrate morbid obesity as normal and beautiful. We gain nothing from villanizing people that suffer from it either. I personally have never suffered obesity but as the years go on, my body seems to want to put a ludicrous amount of fat in places it never used to. I maintain muscle mass by regular resistance training mixed with cardio and HIIT and that helps a lot with the otherwize natural loss of muscle over 40. Personally this is where excercise definetly helps me. Also now at 50, I dont have insulin resistance or high blood pressure as many of my fellow 50 year olds are falling prey to. Even the healthy weight 50 year olds around me are starting blood pressure medication. This is where I beleive the excercise regime I follow has worked wonders. Not so much for weight loss as many seem to think. It gets harder every year though to maintain physique and low body fat. Excercise has tremendous benefits for your health and looks but for great weight loss is a matter of nutrition and what particular combo suits your body, economy and culture.

Freak_NL 4y ago
> We should not celebrate morbid obesity as normal and beautiful. I would swap out the 'beautiful' for 'healthy'. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder after all.
- knicholes 4y ago
  Yeah, but consider that MOST "beautiful" people are not morbidly obese.
  - Freak_NL 4y ago
    True enough for the average interpretation of what is essentially a subjective value, but it puts the focus on the wrong aspect of the issue. It's OK to not be beautiful (most people aren't, or are depending on who you ask), but not being healthy has a bigger impact on the individual (usually) and society (certainly) both. It is also a lot more objectively quantifiable than beauty.
  - Karawebnetwork 4y ago
    Anecdotal, but one of my significant others is morbidly obese. They were already very overweight when I met them and fell in love. They gained even more weight since the pandemic and I still find them beautiful. Obesity is not imcompatible with beauty. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, yes, but it's also about how you carry yourself.
vintermann 4y ago
> the non trivial effort to normalize morbid obesity Now, different cultures I'm sure, but do you really experience "fat acceptance" proselytizing in real life, as opposed to in news articles linking to some bizarre part of Tumblr and its terminally online relatives?
- j-bos 4y ago
  Real life behavior is often downstream of media campaigns. For better or worse, look at the changing attitudes towards many mental health disorders.
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PopAlongKid 4y ago
> the non trivial effort to normalize morbid obesity Musical artist Lizzo: "Throughout her career, Lizzo has been subject to body shaming. She is considered an image for body positivity and self-confidence. She partially credits social media, and the Internet in general, for changing the narrative around size and giving visibility to overweight women." [Wikipedia] Also see: https://headlinehealth.com/lizzo-308-lbs-is-clearly-and-visibly-morbidly-obese/ https://headlinehealth.com/lizzo-308-lbs-is-clearly-and-visi...
civopsec 4y ago
> We should not celebrate morbid obesity as normal and beautiful. Like blue-haired social justice warrior, this supposed celebration of obesity as an identity onto itself is complained about a lot online but not seen much in real life. In real life people merely seem to want to be left alone regarding their health instead of being accused of being sloths and the like—and health is in general a very private thing to many. Virtually no one celebrates being overweight. And certainly not obesity. You talk about middle age. It’s much more common to say that weight-gain is inevitable due to aging than it is to declare that one identifies with one’s gut belly now that one is 40+.
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Freak_NL 4y ago

> We should not celebrate morbid obesity as normal and beautiful. I would swap out the 'beautiful' for 'healthy'. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder after all.

knicholes 4y ago
Yeah, but consider that MOST "beautiful" people are not morbidly obese.
- Freak_NL 4y ago
  True enough for the average interpretation of what is essentially a subjective value, but it puts the focus on the wrong aspect of the issue. It's OK to not be beautiful (most people aren't, or are depending on who you ask), but not being healthy has a bigger impact on the individual (usually) and society (certainly) both. It is also a lot more objectively quantifiable than beauty.
- Karawebnetwork 4y ago
  Anecdotal, but one of my significant others is morbidly obese. They were already very overweight when I met them and fell in love. They gained even more weight since the pandemic and I still find them beautiful. Obesity is not imcompatible with beauty. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, yes, but it's also about how you carry yourself.

vintermann 4y ago

> the non trivial effort to normalize morbid obesity Now, different cultures I'm sure, but do you really experience "fat acceptance" proselytizing in real life, as opposed to in news articles linking to some bizarre part of Tumblr and its terminally online relatives?

j-bos 4y ago
Real life behavior is often downstream of media campaigns. For better or worse, look at the changing attitudes towards many mental health disorders.

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PopAlongKid 4y ago

> the non trivial effort to normalize morbid obesity Musical artist Lizzo: "Throughout her career, Lizzo has been subject to body shaming. She is considered an image for body positivity and self-confidence. She partially credits social media, and the Internet in general, for changing the narrative around size and giving visibility to overweight women." [Wikipedia] Also see: https://headlinehealth.com/lizzo-308-lbs-is-clearly-and-visibly-morbidly-obese/ https://headlinehealth.com/lizzo-308-lbs-is-clearly-and-visi...

civopsec 4y ago

> We should not celebrate morbid obesity as normal and beautiful. Like blue-haired social justice warrior, this supposed celebration of obesity as an identity onto itself is complained about a lot online but not seen much in real life. In real life people merely seem to want to be left alone regarding their health instead of being accused of being sloths and the like—and health is in general a very private thing to many. Virtually no one celebrates being overweight. And certainly not obesity. You talk about middle age. It’s much more common to say that weight-gain is inevitable due to aging than it is to declare that one identifies with one’s gut belly now that one is 40+.

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