Same, I mean they are tricky to get a handle of but seemingly logical once you gain familiarity, until you have a use case that does not fit into a previously e

Same, I mean they are tricky to get a handle of but seemingly logical once you gain familiarity, until you have a use case that does not fit into a previously encountered pattern, and then it's back to the drawing board. But I guess, it's easier then reading the manual but what do I know