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Necessary footnote: Peas (gen Pisum) are very close to gen Lathyrus. Many of this wild flowers use a chemical defense to protect their seeds that is accumulati

Necessary footnote: Peas (gen Pisum) are very close to gen Lathyrus. Many of this wild flowers use a chemical defense to protect their seeds that is accumulative and can lead to serious and permanent neurodegenerative consequences at long term. Lathyrism is one of the oldest diseases known in the history. Was observed in people with irreversible damages on their spinal cord after eating big amounts of the plant Lathyrus sativus, today known as Pisum sativum or "pea". The disease develops after heavy consumption of peas for over two months so, to include an unlimited amount of Pisum sativum in the diet as your main source of protein is a terrible idea. Another case of wrong solutions and dangerous advice provided by veganism. If you are doing it, please stop right now and read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lathyrism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lathyrism

cogman10 4y ago
Just because 2 things are related does not mean they are equally dangerous. Potatoes, tomatos, eggplants, and most peppers are in the Solanaceae family, same as deadly nightshade (Atropa belladonna), which is extremely poisonous. Yet potatoes are a staple crop. The commonly consumed pea types (yellow, sweet, snap, snow) have no risk of causing Lathyrism. Only wild peas pose a risk and those are outright banned in most nations. (notable exception, india, where it is part of several common dishes).
- pvaldes 4y ago
  You have been warned. Plants are unsafe to eat by default The fact that wild peas are much more dangerous does not remove the danger from common sweet peas (of any kind or color, Is the same species). Is a matter of how much of it you eat, and if you allow enough days between meals to detox. It depends also in "how" you eat it. If you mix it with cereals or not (hint, you should) and even in "where" you cook it. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15679560/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15679560/
  - cogman10 4y ago
    > You have been warned. You are spreading FUD. The link you've provided is yet another study on wild peas (grass pea is a wild pea, Lathyrus sativus, just a different name). Show me the study that links sweet pea, Lathyrus odoratus, consumption with Neurolathyrism. The only danger to eating sweet peas is when you eat them in combination with eating wild peas. [1] The pea types I listed do not cause lathyrism without being mixed with Lathyrus sativus. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteolathyrism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteolathyrism
    - pvaldes 4y ago
      Maybe a lost in translation case By common sweet pea, I mean the green common edible one. Pisum sativum = Lathyrus sativus a species that is known to cause the disease if eaten in large amounts. Lathyrism is happening still today in a few parts of the planet like India, and is a serious irreversible condition, not much unlike paraplegia. This is not FUD, is a proven medical fact. Maybe the vegetable has a different name in English. Dunno, but we are talking about the same species all the time. Lathyrus odoratus, is the Fragrant sweet pea, a small species with huge flowers that smell really well. It has tiny peas that are not really edible -in big amounts- (all are "edible" in very small quantities but it does not worth the risk) and of course, as most Lathyrus it causes lathyrism. is just that is a different case of Lathyrism, affecting bones instead nerves if I remember correctly.
      - cogman10 4y ago
        Pisum sativum and Lathyrus sativus are not the same plant. Pisum sativum’s Lathyrus name is “Lathyrus oleraceus” Lathyrus sativus is also referred to as the “white pea”. Because it’s white. I know sativus and sativum look the same but that doesn’t mean they are the same plant. Here’s an article with photos of Lathyrus sativus. [1] If I may inquire, are you from india? If so, then yes, you probably do have to be more aware of the peas you are eating. From the articles I can find it sounds like Lathyrus sativus is banned in india but still somewhat commonly sold. That’s not the case where I’m at in the US. You cannot accidentally get Lathyrus sativus here because nobody is selling it. [1] https://india.mongabay.com/2019/05/toxic-debate-rages-on-over-cultivation-ban-on-khesari-dal/ https://india.mongabay.com/2019/05/toxic-debate-rages-on-ove...

cogman10 4y ago

Just because 2 things are related does not mean they are equally dangerous. Potatoes, tomatos, eggplants, and most peppers are in the Solanaceae family, same as deadly nightshade (Atropa belladonna), which is extremely poisonous. Yet potatoes are a staple crop. The commonly consumed pea types (yellow, sweet, snap, snow) have no risk of causing Lathyrism. Only wild peas pose a risk and those are outright banned in most nations. (notable exception, india, where it is part of several common dishes).

pvaldes 4y ago
You have been warned. Plants are unsafe to eat by default The fact that wild peas are much more dangerous does not remove the danger from common sweet peas (of any kind or color, Is the same species). Is a matter of how much of it you eat, and if you allow enough days between meals to detox. It depends also in "how" you eat it. If you mix it with cereals or not (hint, you should) and even in "where" you cook it. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15679560/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15679560/
- cogman10 4y ago
  > You have been warned. You are spreading FUD. The link you've provided is yet another study on wild peas (grass pea is a wild pea, Lathyrus sativus, just a different name). Show me the study that links sweet pea, Lathyrus odoratus, consumption with Neurolathyrism. The only danger to eating sweet peas is when you eat them in combination with eating wild peas. [1] The pea types I listed do not cause lathyrism without being mixed with Lathyrus sativus. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteolathyrism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteolathyrism
  - pvaldes 4y ago
    Maybe a lost in translation case By common sweet pea, I mean the green common edible one. Pisum sativum = Lathyrus sativus a species that is known to cause the disease if eaten in large amounts. Lathyrism is happening still today in a few parts of the planet like India, and is a serious irreversible condition, not much unlike paraplegia. This is not FUD, is a proven medical fact. Maybe the vegetable has a different name in English. Dunno, but we are talking about the same species all the time. Lathyrus odoratus, is the Fragrant sweet pea, a small species with huge flowers that smell really well. It has tiny peas that are not really edible -in big amounts- (all are "edible" in very small quantities but it does not worth the risk) and of course, as most Lathyrus it causes lathyrism. is just that is a different case of Lathyrism, affecting bones instead nerves if I remember correctly.
    - cogman10 4y ago
      Pisum sativum and Lathyrus sativus are not the same plant. Pisum sativum’s Lathyrus name is “Lathyrus oleraceus” Lathyrus sativus is also referred to as the “white pea”. Because it’s white. I know sativus and sativum look the same but that doesn’t mean they are the same plant. Here’s an article with photos of Lathyrus sativus. [1] If I may inquire, are you from india? If so, then yes, you probably do have to be more aware of the peas you are eating. From the articles I can find it sounds like Lathyrus sativus is banned in india but still somewhat commonly sold. That’s not the case where I’m at in the US. You cannot accidentally get Lathyrus sativus here because nobody is selling it. [1] https://india.mongabay.com/2019/05/toxic-debate-rages-on-over-cultivation-ban-on-khesari-dal/ https://india.mongabay.com/2019/05/toxic-debate-rages-on-ove...