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What do you think his employer should have done? I recently had to terminate an employee who was becoming unhinged and a threat to his coworkers. Maybe his em

What do you think his employer should have done? I recently had to terminate an employee who was becoming unhinged and a threat to his coworkers. Maybe his employer is big enough to carry him on payroll while he gets treatment?

tptacek 4y ago
Put him on a long-term sabbatical and arranged mental health care. If they'd tried and my friend refused, or it didn't take, fair's fair. But I don't believe that's what happened. My friend essentially had a psychotic break while on the job. I'd expect a public university to be especially good at stuff like this, but I've worked in the private sector with people who had severe mental health issues that took them out of the lineup for years at a time and they were still taken care of. It was a whole big media story at the time, and I thought it was remarkable how the university played it off as a morality story and not a medical crisis.
- mixmastamyk 4y ago
  I’d expect that too. Perhaps paranoid-schizophrenia manifesting itself as racist rants collided with wokism in an unfortunate manner and really bad timing.
  - tptacek 4y ago
    There was nothing "woke" about the disciplinary response to what he was saying; it was absolutely unacceptable. Ron DeSantis wouldn't have tolerated it either. Regardless: most of my enmity is reserved for people like RFK Jr, who are literally building a movement in large part by mobilizing people with untreated mental illness.
    - mixmastamyk 4y ago
      Was referring to the part where you said he was dropped without consideration that it was an illness. Could be old-fashioned careless disregard, but we know the climate at Uni in 2020 where even the appearance of racism is a hot potato.
      - tptacek 4y ago
        Once again: there was no mistaking what happened in this instance. I don't appreciate having culture war arguments shoehorned into this; I think you could have just taken my word for it.
        mixmastamyk 4y ago
        Previously you implied you were surprised at the outcome. Now it is cut and dried. Got it. I don’t watch TV so have no problem chatting about this stuff, relevant or not. Sorry if it rubbed you the wrong way.
        seattle_spring 4y ago
        > I don’t watch TV How is that at all related to the discussion at hand?
        mixmastamyk 4y ago
        Not overly sensitive to particular words. Most TV folks I know are in a state of low-level crisis due to regular helpings of FUD.

tptacek 4y ago

Put him on a long-term sabbatical and arranged mental health care. If they'd tried and my friend refused, or it didn't take, fair's fair. But I don't believe that's what happened. My friend essentially had a psychotic break while on the job. I'd expect a public university to be especially good at stuff like this, but I've worked in the private sector with people who had severe mental health issues that took them out of the lineup for years at a time and they were still taken care of. It was a whole big media story at the time, and I thought it was remarkable how the university played it off as a morality story and not a medical crisis.

mixmastamyk 4y ago
I’d expect that too. Perhaps paranoid-schizophrenia manifesting itself as racist rants collided with wokism in an unfortunate manner and really bad timing.
- tptacek 4y ago
  There was nothing "woke" about the disciplinary response to what he was saying; it was absolutely unacceptable. Ron DeSantis wouldn't have tolerated it either. Regardless: most of my enmity is reserved for people like RFK Jr, who are literally building a movement in large part by mobilizing people with untreated mental illness.
  - mixmastamyk 4y ago
    Was referring to the part where you said he was dropped without consideration that it was an illness. Could be old-fashioned careless disregard, but we know the climate at Uni in 2020 where even the appearance of racism is a hot potato.
    - tptacek 4y ago
      Once again: there was no mistaking what happened in this instance. I don't appreciate having culture war arguments shoehorned into this; I think you could have just taken my word for it.
      - mixmastamyk 4y ago
        Previously you implied you were surprised at the outcome. Now it is cut and dried. Got it. I don’t watch TV so have no problem chatting about this stuff, relevant or not. Sorry if it rubbed you the wrong way.
        seattle_spring 4y ago
        > I don’t watch TV How is that at all related to the discussion at hand?
        mixmastamyk 4y ago
        Not overly sensitive to particular words. Most TV folks I know are in a state of low-level crisis due to regular helpings of FUD.