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It isn't now is it? I work at small UK Ltd company. I know roughly who our owners are. But it isn't public information beyond what we choose to publish. Edit:
by LatteLazy 4y ago
It isn't now is it? I work at small UK Ltd company. I know roughly who our owners are. But it isn't public information beyond what we choose to publish.
Edit: I checked companies house. No information on ownership at all. Only 2 directors are named. One is the CEO, the other is our accounting firm (the firm, not an individual there).
Either people are very misinformed, or "it's public" means "it's only public if you want to make it public"...
- nebolo 4y agoI guess it depends on the country? In Germany (and a couple of other countries that I know of), the owners of a company are public.
- sva_ 4y agohttps://e-justice.europa.eu/38590/EN/beneficial_ownership_registers_interconnection_system_boris?EUROPEAN_UNION&action=maximize&idSubpage=1&member=1 https://e-justice.europa.eu/38590/EN/beneficial_ownership_re... Looks like some countries already closed these registers down: https://www.kvk.nl/english/ordering-products-from-the-business-register/kvk-ubo-register-extract/ https://www.kvk.nl/english/ordering-products-from-the-busine... > Minister Kaag of the Ministry of Finance has asked KVK to temporarily stop its information services for the UBO register. This decision was taken following a ruling by the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU). Read the Ministry of Finance letter (in Dutch).
- rudasn 4y agoYou can check opencorporate for that info.
- sph 4y agoI'm not sure what you mean: All directors, shareholders and accounts are publicly available on the Companies House website.
- LatteLazy 4y agoThey're not in our case. No owners are listed at all in fact. The only details are the CEO and our accountant (a company not an individual) as directors...
- yardstick 4y agoAll directors are, but are all shareholders? I just did a quick check and it only seemed to list people with significant control, not all shareholders. Unless there’s an area I’ve missed.
- sph 4y agoYeah you might be right, only bigger shareholders are listed.
- theonlybutlet 4y agoThat's accounting speak for true ownership. But they do get around this listing some legal entity in a tax haven.
- petercooper 4y agoYes. However, you need to hunt a bit by going into the "returns." Go into "Filing history" then tick "Confirmation statements / Annual returns." Then skip any "confirmation statements" that have "no updates." Eventually you will reach an "Annual return" with "full list of shareholders." This document will include all shareholders and is true for any Ltd company I've looked up in recent years. They just don't republish it every year. Of course, this list may well just be other companies that are overseas and you can't drill down into their owners.. ;-)
- blibble 4y agoannual returns were dropped several years ago a new company won't have one at all
- petercooper 4y agoThe name changed but confirmation statements are basically the same thing, except if there are no changes, they just confirm prior information. You can go back to whatever that prior information is. For companies formed after 2016, full shareholder information will be in the incorporation documents under "Initial Shareholdings."
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- potamic 4y agoInteresting. It's public information in India which I thought would have inherited from the UK.
- bennysonething 4y agoI think the parent post is wrong.
- tailspin2019 4y agoIt is too in the UK. The parent may not be aware of the public Companies House register which makes this information available to anyone.
- cassianoleal 4y agoHave you tried searching Companies House for the Ltd? https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/ https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/
- LatteLazy 4y agoJust tried it. No information on ownership there. The only information is our accountants address and the name of the CEO. Zero information about our true owner or significant investors...
- cassianoleal 4y agoFair enough. I guess if the company is not publicly listed there's not much reason to have ownership public. Don't really know though.
- Daniel_sk 4y agoAFAIK in most EU countries you can easily look up owners and also tax data. For example in Slovakia I can query any company name and see the "owners" with their address and also the revenue and other tax related data for each year.
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- hnbad 4y agoThe directive in question is this one from 2018: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A32018L0843 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A... If you're in the UK, it's entirely possible it never got implemented. It adds to an earlier directive from 2015 that didn't include the provision requiring the data to be public: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A32015L0849 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A...
- r_hoods_ghost 4y agoYou have to click on people > persons with significant control tab.Those are the owners.