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I'm actually very happy about the rise of VTubers/live avatars. I imagine that there are a lot of people that would love to interactively share their knowledge/

by rychco 4y ago

I'm actually very happy about the rise of VTubers/live avatars. I imagine that there are a lot of people that would love to interactively share their knowledge/skills on youtube/twitch but avoid doing so because they're not conventionally attractive or just too shy.

wilsonnb3 4y ago
> I imagine that there are a lot of people that would love to interactively share their knowledge/skills on youtube/twitch but avoid doing so because they're not conventionally attractive or just too shy. Couldn't they just not show themselves on camera at all?
- rychco 4y ago
  True but this is likely less engaging for the audience, which has been my experience.
  - sph 4y ago
    This is when I repeat my silly joke that I'd rather see Skeletor doing live coding than another anime girl with pitched upvoice. Enough furries and anime girls, people. They are cute, but there is more to animated art
    - gpm 4y ago
      Project idea: Take something that looks like a mindflayer (d&d art with tentacles around it's mouth) and use it for live coding. Instead of displaying a mouse and cursor have the tentacles reach out and manipulate the code from behind a semi-transparent pane of glass that the code is displayed on.
    - rodgerd 4y ago
      Be the change you want to see in the world, then.
    - 91edec 4y ago
      Live coding with an animated 40k Ork is something I never knew I wanted.
mrguyorama 4y ago
But what about people that hate the "twitchification" of media? I don't like when youtubers I enjoy watching switch to streaming and then all their content is identical "poggers" chat and donation begging garbage. Streamers all feel the same, regardless of the content. I don't feel there's any value to a hundred instances of a stupid emoji streaming by in a """chat""" window, and everything just feels like attention whoring "pick me" nonsense. Vinesauce has been streaming since well before twitch, and their content got significantly more "Twitch"-y after they embraced the current system. It's obvious why, because if you play into the chat begging, the surface level """interaction""", then you get more money from the parasocial twelve year olds with mom's credit card. But I don't want my content full of ten second interruptions as a robot voice reads off the same tired joke somebody paid ten dollars to get read off.
- rodgerd 4y ago
  > But what about people that hate the "twitchification" of media? Well, when those people put months of their lives into reverse-engineering a reliable stack of code for an undocumented platform, and want to do presentations and write-ups of their work, those people can decide to present however they want. In the meantime maybe people who are contributing precisely nothing can STFU about the people who are.
- CuriousCosmic 4y ago
  that's all a choice of the streamer. some streamers choose to have TTS (text to speech) but a lot don't. Twitch is bad about TTS in particular but it's far less common on the youtube side of streaming. Doubly so the twitch chat is going to mirror the streamer. So if the streamer is being a goon and playing up the twitch culture, you'll get twitch chat. But you can also have a very different chat experience if you establish from the get go that chat is to behave a specific way.
- levesque 4y ago
  Donations and twitch emerged as funding mechanisms because Youtube ads are not providing enough revenue for the vast majority of content creators out there.

by rychco 4y ago

wilsonnb3 4y ago

> I imagine that there are a lot of people that would love to interactively share their knowledge/skills on youtube/twitch but avoid doing so because they're not conventionally attractive or just too shy. Couldn't they just not show themselves on camera at all?

rychco 4y ago
True but this is likely less engaging for the audience, which has been my experience.
- sph 4y ago
  This is when I repeat my silly joke that I'd rather see Skeletor doing live coding than another anime girl with pitched upvoice. Enough furries and anime girls, people. They are cute, but there is more to animated art
  - gpm 4y ago
    Project idea: Take something that looks like a mindflayer (d&d art with tentacles around it's mouth) and use it for live coding. Instead of displaying a mouse and cursor have the tentacles reach out and manipulate the code from behind a semi-transparent pane of glass that the code is displayed on.
  - rodgerd 4y ago
    Be the change you want to see in the world, then.
  - 91edec 4y ago
    Live coding with an animated 40k Ork is something I never knew I wanted.

mrguyorama 4y ago

But what about people that hate the "twitchification" of media? I don't like when youtubers I enjoy watching switch to streaming and then all their content is identical "poggers" chat and donation begging garbage. Streamers all feel the same, regardless of the content. I don't feel there's any value to a hundred instances of a stupid emoji streaming by in a """chat""" window, and everything just feels like attention whoring "pick me" nonsense. Vinesauce has been streaming since well before twitch, and their content got significantly more "Twitch"-y after they embraced the current system. It's obvious why, because if you play into the chat begging, the surface level """interaction""", then you get more money from the parasocial twelve year olds with mom's credit card. But I don't want my content full of ten second interruptions as a robot voice reads off the same tired joke somebody paid ten dollars to get read off.

rodgerd 4y ago
> But what about people that hate the "twitchification" of media? Well, when those people put months of their lives into reverse-engineering a reliable stack of code for an undocumented platform, and want to do presentations and write-ups of their work, those people can decide to present however they want. In the meantime maybe people who are contributing precisely nothing can STFU about the people who are.
CuriousCosmic 4y ago
that's all a choice of the streamer. some streamers choose to have TTS (text to speech) but a lot don't. Twitch is bad about TTS in particular but it's far less common on the youtube side of streaming. Doubly so the twitch chat is going to mirror the streamer. So if the streamer is being a goon and playing up the twitch culture, you'll get twitch chat. But you can also have a very different chat experience if you establish from the get go that chat is to behave a specific way.
levesque 4y ago
Donations and twitch emerged as funding mechanisms because Youtube ads are not providing enough revenue for the vast majority of content creators out there.