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And, sorry for continuing this thread, what is a "vTuber anime persona"?

bogeholm 4y ago
vTuber = virtual YouTuber (YouTube as genericized term for “video platform”, as in Xerox for copying) Anime = Japanese cartoon style
wincy 4y ago
It’s like a full time filter where the only online identity someone presents is as an anime girl. I think it was popularized by a company called HoloLive that has Japanese girls do this as a full time job? It’s a VERY niche culture thing. Check out the Asahi Lina channel to see what I mean. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LonzMviFCNs https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LonzMviFCNs
- wilsonnb3 4y ago
  Surprisingly it is not that niche anymore - for example, the hololive subreddit has 800,000 subscribers which is about half of the hockey subreddit.
  - masklinn 4y ago
    Do all subscribers to team subreddits follow the main sub as well though? Because I assume fans follow "their" teams' subreddit, and there's several in the 100k range.
    - wilsonnb3 4y ago
      I think most fans subscribe to the "main" sub (r/hocket, nba, baseball, etc) for general league news and discussion in addition to team subs. Hololive functions in a similar way - the most popular members have their own subreddits in addition to the main hololive sub.
  - astrange 4y ago
    Ironmouse is the most popular female streamer on Twitch (by subs). Pekora is in the top 5 most watched female streamers worldwide (by viewer-hours). It’s not needed for guys apparently, but it’s not niche.
  - mlindner 4y ago
    Yes but none of them are using voice changing that makes it hard to listen to. They all speak in their natural voices or with a natural manual affect that they prefer to put on, something that computers don't seem to be able to replicate yet. I watch Japanese vtubers quite a lot and enjoy doing so, but I couldn't personally listen to Lina as the voice sounds grating on the ears.
- rowanG077 4y ago
  It doesn't have to be a anime girl. There are also a few male vtubers. Bubi and Lord Aethalstan beeing examples.
hoppyhoppy2 4y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VTuber https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VTuber
psychphysic 4y ago
One of those threads where you comment and more questions are raised that feel almost irrelevant. From what I have gleaned, vTuber is a virtual YouTuber. The streams use an anime model a s behaviour. So we've no idea who it is. And for some reason I feel creeped out now. There is something perturbing about the saccharin persona coupled with the pseudonym. Like Pennywise (It) vibes?
- masklinn 4y ago
  > From what I have gleaned, vTuber is a virtual YouTuber. The streams use an anime model a s behaviour. Yes, basically instead of streaming as themselves vTubers stream as a persona, usually with an anime-style virtual avatar. > And for some reason I feel creeped out now. There is something perturbing about the saccharin persona coupled with the pseudonym. I've not found a vTuber I enjoyed (but the main vTuber community is japanese and japanese TV / entertainment is... a lot, and not my cup of tea). However how is "Asahi Lina" and an animated cartoon avatar creepier than psychphysic and a random picture or manga snip on a forum 15 or 20 years ago? As far as I'm concerned it's the same principle moved from the media of text and images to that of audio and video.
  - psychphysic 4y ago
    > However how is "Asahi Lina" and an animated cartoon avatar creepier than psychphysic and a random picture or manga snip on a forum 15 or 20 years ago? That's a really good question and I only have a cop-out answer. I'm not the type to get the creeps. But the immediate thought I had and commented else where was of Pennywise. Which is really quite alarming! I think the core was that Asahi in my mind is quite infantilised and the realisation that the person behind the persona is quite likely to be adult man. Nothing particularly predatory here, but there is still a feeling of a false sense of security.
    - sangnoir 4y ago
      > Nothing particularly predatory here, but there is still a feeling of a false sense of security. What danger could an online persona possibly present to you? "[...]a false sense of security" implies there's a danger

vTuber = virtual YouTuber (YouTube as genericized term for “video platform”, as in Xerox for copying) Anime = Japanese cartoon style

wincy 4y ago

It’s like a full time filter where the only online identity someone presents is as an anime girl. I think it was popularized by a company called HoloLive that has Japanese girls do this as a full time job? It’s a VERY niche culture thing. Check out the Asahi Lina channel to see what I mean. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LonzMviFCNs https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LonzMviFCNs

wilsonnb3 4y ago
Surprisingly it is not that niche anymore - for example, the hololive subreddit has 800,000 subscribers which is about half of the hockey subreddit.
- masklinn 4y ago
  Do all subscribers to team subreddits follow the main sub as well though? Because I assume fans follow "their" teams' subreddit, and there's several in the 100k range.
  - wilsonnb3 4y ago
    I think most fans subscribe to the "main" sub (r/hocket, nba, baseball, etc) for general league news and discussion in addition to team subs. Hololive functions in a similar way - the most popular members have their own subreddits in addition to the main hololive sub.
- astrange 4y ago
  Ironmouse is the most popular female streamer on Twitch (by subs). Pekora is in the top 5 most watched female streamers worldwide (by viewer-hours). It’s not needed for guys apparently, but it’s not niche.
- mlindner 4y ago
  Yes but none of them are using voice changing that makes it hard to listen to. They all speak in their natural voices or with a natural manual affect that they prefer to put on, something that computers don't seem to be able to replicate yet. I watch Japanese vtubers quite a lot and enjoy doing so, but I couldn't personally listen to Lina as the voice sounds grating on the ears.
rowanG077 4y ago
It doesn't have to be a anime girl. There are also a few male vtubers. Bubi and Lord Aethalstan beeing examples.

hoppyhoppy2 4y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VTuber https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VTuber

psychphysic 4y ago

One of those threads where you comment and more questions are raised that feel almost irrelevant. From what I have gleaned, vTuber is a virtual YouTuber. The streams use an anime model a s behaviour. So we've no idea who it is. And for some reason I feel creeped out now. There is something perturbing about the saccharin persona coupled with the pseudonym. Like Pennywise (It) vibes?

masklinn 4y ago
> From what I have gleaned, vTuber is a virtual YouTuber. The streams use an anime model a s behaviour. Yes, basically instead of streaming as themselves vTubers stream as a persona, usually with an anime-style virtual avatar. > And for some reason I feel creeped out now. There is something perturbing about the saccharin persona coupled with the pseudonym. I've not found a vTuber I enjoyed (but the main vTuber community is japanese and japanese TV / entertainment is... a lot, and not my cup of tea). However how is "Asahi Lina" and an animated cartoon avatar creepier than psychphysic and a random picture or manga snip on a forum 15 or 20 years ago? As far as I'm concerned it's the same principle moved from the media of text and images to that of audio and video.
- psychphysic 4y ago
  > However how is "Asahi Lina" and an animated cartoon avatar creepier than psychphysic and a random picture or manga snip on a forum 15 or 20 years ago? That's a really good question and I only have a cop-out answer. I'm not the type to get the creeps. But the immediate thought I had and commented else where was of Pennywise. Which is really quite alarming! I think the core was that Asahi in my mind is quite infantilised and the realisation that the person behind the persona is quite likely to be adult man. Nothing particularly predatory here, but there is still a feeling of a false sense of security.
  - sangnoir 4y ago
    > Nothing particularly predatory here, but there is still a feeling of a false sense of security. What danger could an online persona possibly present to you? "[...]a false sense of security" implies there's a danger