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True but this is due to selection of faster growing varietals by farms. If you buy old-school vegetables you get old-school vitamins and minerals. Buy direct, b

True but this is due to selection of faster growing varietals by farms. If you buy old-school vegetables you get old-school vitamins and minerals. Buy direct, buy fresh, buy local.

thaumasiotes 4y ago
> If you buy old-school vegetables you get old-school vitamins and minerals. Buy direct, buy fresh, buy local. You're going to have some problems during winter.
- asow92 4y ago
  This is why canning and food preservation was so important
- slothtrop 4y ago
  Only for the local part, not as it pertains to the vitamins. Notwithstanding, year-round most of the produce in large grocery stores isn't local and will never be.
  - giantg2 4y ago
    Actually, the stuff in the store has usually been in warehouses for long periods of time. During that time, they lose nutrients.
    - slothtrop 4y ago
      Some, probably vitamin C. But that can be recouped with produce that always has lots anyway, e.g. tomatoes.
      - giantg2 4y ago
        Not just vitamin C. B vitamins can be reduced by up to 70%. There is degradation with many other nutrients as well.
        slothtrop 4y ago
        "Up to" doesn't paint a realistic picture, but it's a moot point. Nutritional deficits in the West are a result of poor consumption choices, not the lack of nutrition in produce.
- zemvpferreira 4y ago
  Eat stuff that grows in winter? Hardy vegetables have their season now in many latitudes, it's not that tricky. If you live in the tundra I am sorry for you and please move to Costa Rica if your skin can tolerate it.
  - TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
    > it's not that tricky Are you serious? I live at 39.75 latitude in the USA with strong winters with snow and ice. There’s no way you’re growing vegetables in winter here without a greenhouse. You have no idea what you’re talking about. Do you live in California? This is true of the Midwest, and anything in the Northeast north of say, Wilmington Delaware or even Baltimore depending on the year.
    - zemvpferreira 4y ago
      I live in a place conducive to human life and not a barren wasteland, yes. Y'all should move here! It's Lisbon by the way.
      - thaumasiotes 4y ago
        You think everyone who lives anywhere with snow in the winter should move to Portugal?
        zemvpferreira 4y ago
        No, anywhere in a moderate climate will do.
giantg2 4y ago
That's only part of the issue. Soil composition is another part. Those "old-school" vegetables also need to be grown in old-school soil, using natural fertilizer (or at least fertilizers with additional minerals beyond the typical stuff).
throw8383833jj 4y ago
It's also, the actual air. There's more CO2 in the air these days. this super charges the growth of plants: vegetables and cereal crops. But, the amount of minerals in the plant remains the same but the plants grow larger with more sugar content. and so the amount nutrients per calories drops. this has been proven and documented.

True but this is due to selection of faster growing varietals by farms. If you buy old-school vegetables you get old-school vitamins and minerals. Buy direct, buy fresh, buy local.

thaumasiotes 4y ago

> If you buy old-school vegetables you get old-school vitamins and minerals. Buy direct, buy fresh, buy local. You're going to have some problems during winter.

asow92 4y ago
This is why canning and food preservation was so important
slothtrop 4y ago
Only for the local part, not as it pertains to the vitamins. Notwithstanding, year-round most of the produce in large grocery stores isn't local and will never be.
- giantg2 4y ago
  Actually, the stuff in the store has usually been in warehouses for long periods of time. During that time, they lose nutrients.
  - slothtrop 4y ago
    Some, probably vitamin C. But that can be recouped with produce that always has lots anyway, e.g. tomatoes.
    - giantg2 4y ago
      Not just vitamin C. B vitamins can be reduced by up to 70%. There is degradation with many other nutrients as well.
      - slothtrop 4y ago
        "Up to" doesn't paint a realistic picture, but it's a moot point. Nutritional deficits in the West are a result of poor consumption choices, not the lack of nutrition in produce.
zemvpferreira 4y ago
Eat stuff that grows in winter? Hardy vegetables have their season now in many latitudes, it's not that tricky. If you live in the tundra I am sorry for you and please move to Costa Rica if your skin can tolerate it.
- TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
  > it's not that tricky Are you serious? I live at 39.75 latitude in the USA with strong winters with snow and ice. There’s no way you’re growing vegetables in winter here without a greenhouse. You have no idea what you’re talking about. Do you live in California? This is true of the Midwest, and anything in the Northeast north of say, Wilmington Delaware or even Baltimore depending on the year.
  - zemvpferreira 4y ago
    I live in a place conducive to human life and not a barren wasteland, yes. Y'all should move here! It's Lisbon by the way.
    - thaumasiotes 4y ago
      You think everyone who lives anywhere with snow in the winter should move to Portugal?
      - zemvpferreira 4y ago
        No, anywhere in a moderate climate will do.

giantg2 4y ago

That's only part of the issue. Soil composition is another part. Those "old-school" vegetables also need to be grown in old-school soil, using natural fertilizer (or at least fertilizers with additional minerals beyond the typical stuff).

throw8383833jj 4y ago

It's also, the actual air. There's more CO2 in the air these days. this super charges the growth of plants: vegetables and cereal crops. But, the amount of minerals in the plant remains the same but the plants grow larger with more sugar content. and so the amount nutrients per calories drops. this has been proven and documented.