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"Gabriele Galimberti, who shot the teddy bear ad but had no involvement with the spring campaign, said in a statement on Instagram that he too was given no cont

"Gabriele Galimberti, who shot the teddy bear ad but had no involvement with the spring campaign, said in a statement on Instagram that he too was given no control over the creative content of his shoot, other than details like lighting and framing. The content — pairing child models with the teddy bear bag — had already been decided before he was hired, he said." There is a valid lesson here for all professionals including us Software Engineers. The photographer has demonstrated something about his willingness to do something for money regardless of whether it's a 'good' idea. Take a step back and decide do I want to be involved in this?

chrischen 4y ago
I honestly think this is going a little too far. The photographer also stated that they were not even involved with the photo with the court case documents... Everyone is quick to judge but everyone is culpable for something bad... This is like China's internet mob justice and "human flesh search" days all over again. Mob justice on the random people hired to do this is irresponsible. Target the beneficial owners... I don't know what BDSM looks like so it looks innocent enough to me and it seems those are real bags from the company that just look like that... with children holding them because it's a teddy bear? Seems like lots of pots calling the kettle black here?
- sakopov 4y ago
  > Mob justice on the random people hired to do this is irresponsible. So, here's a random person hired to do this shoot boasting about it on their Instagram page. [1] I don't even know what angle you can come at this to make this seem normal. [1] https://twitter.com/curioslight/status/1596822351668469762 https://twitter.com/curioslight/status/1596822351668469762
  - chrischen 4y ago
    Who is the random person hired to photograph here? What am I looking at here? If she was significant then why didn’t her countless followers do anything before? Are they culpable?
- badcppdev 4y ago
  The photographer was hired to do a job and he did it. I doubt his reputation will be damaged by this. Nevertheless I think he showed poor judgement. I doubt he could pretend that he didn't know that the teddy bears were sexually themed as BDSM styling is not that obscure. And it really feels to me that he should be paying attention to what he is photographing. So I stand by my point that I hope that other professionals pay attention to what they are being asked to do and decide whether they will do it.
  - chrischen 4y ago
    The photographer literally posted on instagram saying they had to say something because they were receiving death threats... Imagine getting death threats for a photo of a child holding a banana because some people in the world happen to be fruit-sexuals and like to have sex with fruits, only to be overcome by shame and trying to deflect it onto someone else when seeing their banana butt plug in the hands of an innocent child.
    - badcppdev 4y ago
      You stated, "I don't know what BDSM looks like so it looks innocent enough to me". So you're stating that you're not informed about the background context of the imagery. It's really unfortunate that the photographer also did not know, research, or think about the imagery in their photoshoot. And specifically the juxtaposition with children. At the risk of going close to Godwin's law I would say that a photographer publishing pictures of anti-semitic symbols is going to face negative feedback if they don't understand what they are photographing and present it appropriately. I'm not justifying threats of violence but criticism is definitely valid. I was trying to talk about the photographer not having shown good judgement and how we should learn from that. If it involves sexuality, race, ethnicity, children, disabilities, or politics then professionals should probably think about whether they are qualified to do it appropriately.

chrischen 4y ago

I honestly think this is going a little too far. The photographer also stated that they were not even involved with the photo with the court case documents... Everyone is quick to judge but everyone is culpable for something bad... This is like China's internet mob justice and "human flesh search" days all over again. Mob justice on the random people hired to do this is irresponsible. Target the beneficial owners... I don't know what BDSM looks like so it looks innocent enough to me and it seems those are real bags from the company that just look like that... with children holding them because it's a teddy bear? Seems like lots of pots calling the kettle black here?

sakopov 4y ago
> Mob justice on the random people hired to do this is irresponsible. So, here's a random person hired to do this shoot boasting about it on their Instagram page. [1] I don't even know what angle you can come at this to make this seem normal. [1] https://twitter.com/curioslight/status/1596822351668469762 https://twitter.com/curioslight/status/1596822351668469762
- chrischen 4y ago
  Who is the random person hired to photograph here? What am I looking at here? If she was significant then why didn’t her countless followers do anything before? Are they culpable?
badcppdev 4y ago
The photographer was hired to do a job and he did it. I doubt his reputation will be damaged by this. Nevertheless I think he showed poor judgement. I doubt he could pretend that he didn't know that the teddy bears were sexually themed as BDSM styling is not that obscure. And it really feels to me that he should be paying attention to what he is photographing. So I stand by my point that I hope that other professionals pay attention to what they are being asked to do and decide whether they will do it.
- chrischen 4y ago
  The photographer literally posted on instagram saying they had to say something because they were receiving death threats... Imagine getting death threats for a photo of a child holding a banana because some people in the world happen to be fruit-sexuals and like to have sex with fruits, only to be overcome by shame and trying to deflect it onto someone else when seeing their banana butt plug in the hands of an innocent child.
  - badcppdev 4y ago
    You stated, "I don't know what BDSM looks like so it looks innocent enough to me". So you're stating that you're not informed about the background context of the imagery. It's really unfortunate that the photographer also did not know, research, or think about the imagery in their photoshoot. And specifically the juxtaposition with children. At the risk of going close to Godwin's law I would say that a photographer publishing pictures of anti-semitic symbols is going to face negative feedback if they don't understand what they are photographing and present it appropriately. I'm not justifying threats of violence but criticism is definitely valid. I was trying to talk about the photographer not having shown good judgement and how we should learn from that. If it involves sexuality, race, ethnicity, children, disabilities, or politics then professionals should probably think about whether they are qualified to do it appropriately.