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Wow, Eglot/Treesitter/better package support in 29 make me want to try Emacs again. > Install packages from source with package.el Emacs users updating to 29:

Wow, Eglot/Treesitter/better package support in 29 make me want to try Emacs again. > Install packages from source with package.el Emacs users updating to 29: do you plan to use this instead of Straight now? If not, can you help me to understand what more Straight provides? Emacs on macOS users: do you generally compile new versions of Emacs from source, or wait for ports like Mitsuharu Yamamoto's one[1] to update? [1] https://bitbucket.org/mituharu/emacs-mac/src/master/ https://bitbucket.org/mituharu/emacs-mac/src/master/, used by https://github.com/railwaycat/homebrew-emacsmacport https://github.com/railwaycat/homebrew-emacsmacport

fayten 4y ago
My preferred distribution for emacs on macos is: https://github.com/d12frosted/homebrew-emacs-plus https://github.com/d12frosted/homebrew-emacs-plus It's well documented and supported, I highly recommend it!
- mark_l_watson 4y ago
  Thanks!! I hadn’t seen this, will try it today.
- letmeinhere 4y ago
  yeah, options for native compilations on/off, nice custom icons, comes with a `brew service`; very solid
- xenodium 4y ago
  +1 I’ve been using native comp (and other goodies) on M1 via emacs plus https://xenodium.com/emacs-plus-with-native-comp/ https://xenodium.com/emacs-plus-with-native-comp/
mark_l_watson 4y ago
I just started using Straight a few months ago, best improvement that I have experienced in 40 years of Emacs use. I will definitely try switching to built in support for package.el, as well as switch to eglot and other new built-in features. I prefer shorter Emacs config files.
wrongotron 4y ago
I always grab dmg's from here: https://emacsformacosx.com/ https://emacsformacosx.com/
- e40 4y ago
  This has been a reliable source, over the years. I love it.
Kalq 4y ago
Just an fyi for people using straight or interested in it, its maintainer is working on an alternative called elpaca. https://github.com/progfolio/elpaca https://github.com/progfolio/elpaca
- ashton314 4y ago
  I've been driving elpaca for some weeks now and it is fairly usable. Very fast installs. Occasional jankiness (as is to be expected from alpha software)
lanstin 4y ago
I have been compiling from git head since they added jit compilation, as it is much faster. (On Linux and Mac). Sometimes I run into weirdness and repull and recompile. My version says 30 now, but if homebrew packages 29 I might switch back.
catern 4y ago
Just as one data point, I have never used straight.el, package.el as it exists in even Emacs 26 is sufficient for me for all my packages. I think this is true for the majority of Emacs users that use packages.
hanche 4y ago
I’ve been using Mitsuharu’s port for years, always compiling it myself from his bitbucket repo. I am no longer sure how different it is from the vanilla GNU distribution. When I first started using emacs, long before the Mac port, the current version was 18.57, I think. It was a long wait for version 19 to appear, being the first version with proper X11 support. It amazes me to think of how much has happened since, and that emacs is as useful and relevant now as then.
winkywooster 4y ago
The railwaycat build is the only version of Emacs I've found to work with Magnet (https://magnet.crowdcafe.com https://magnet.crowdcafe.com).
tmalsburg2 4y ago
straight.el feels more robust. For instance, I didn't experience any issues with stale .elc files or similar since switching to straight.
kickingvegas 4y ago
I use the MacPorts build of Mitsuharu Yamamoto's port https://ports.macports.org/port/emacs-app/ https://ports.macports.org/port/emacs-app/
- kickingvegas 4y ago
  Posted the wrong link. Here's the correct one. https://ports.macports.org/port/emacs-mac-app/details/ https://ports.macports.org/port/emacs-mac-app/details/
srcreigh 4y ago
Probably not re packaging. I like use-package and they’re talking about including use-package with emacs 30.
theCodeStig 4y ago
I use Nix on macOS to install emacs. No special ports.

fayten 4y ago

My preferred distribution for emacs on macos is: https://github.com/d12frosted/homebrew-emacs-plus https://github.com/d12frosted/homebrew-emacs-plus It's well documented and supported, I highly recommend it!

mark_l_watson 4y ago
Thanks!! I hadn’t seen this, will try it today.
letmeinhere 4y ago
yeah, options for native compilations on/off, nice custom icons, comes with a `brew service`; very solid
xenodium 4y ago
+1 I’ve been using native comp (and other goodies) on M1 via emacs plus https://xenodium.com/emacs-plus-with-native-comp/ https://xenodium.com/emacs-plus-with-native-comp/

mark_l_watson 4y ago

I just started using Straight a few months ago, best improvement that I have experienced in 40 years of Emacs use. I will definitely try switching to built in support for package.el, as well as switch to eglot and other new built-in features. I prefer shorter Emacs config files.

wrongotron 4y ago

I always grab dmg's from here: https://emacsformacosx.com/ https://emacsformacosx.com/

e40 4y ago
This has been a reliable source, over the years. I love it.

Kalq 4y ago

Just an fyi for people using straight or interested in it, its maintainer is working on an alternative called elpaca. https://github.com/progfolio/elpaca https://github.com/progfolio/elpaca

ashton314 4y ago
I've been driving elpaca for some weeks now and it is fairly usable. Very fast installs. Occasional jankiness (as is to be expected from alpha software)

lanstin 4y ago

I have been compiling from git head since they added jit compilation, as it is much faster. (On Linux and Mac). Sometimes I run into weirdness and repull and recompile. My version says 30 now, but if homebrew packages 29 I might switch back.

catern 4y ago

Just as one data point, I have never used straight.el, package.el as it exists in even Emacs 26 is sufficient for me for all my packages. I think this is true for the majority of Emacs users that use packages.

hanche 4y ago

I’ve been using Mitsuharu’s port for years, always compiling it myself from his bitbucket repo. I am no longer sure how different it is from the vanilla GNU distribution. When I first started using emacs, long before the Mac port, the current version was 18.57, I think. It was a long wait for version 19 to appear, being the first version with proper X11 support. It amazes me to think of how much has happened since, and that emacs is as useful and relevant now as then.

winkywooster 4y ago

The railwaycat build is the only version of Emacs I've found to work with Magnet (https://magnet.crowdcafe.com https://magnet.crowdcafe.com).

tmalsburg2 4y ago

straight.el feels more robust. For instance, I didn't experience any issues with stale .elc files or similar since switching to straight.

kickingvegas 4y ago

I use the MacPorts build of Mitsuharu Yamamoto's port https://ports.macports.org/port/emacs-app/ https://ports.macports.org/port/emacs-app/

kickingvegas 4y ago
Posted the wrong link. Here's the correct one. https://ports.macports.org/port/emacs-mac-app/details/ https://ports.macports.org/port/emacs-mac-app/details/

srcreigh 4y ago

Probably not re packaging. I like use-package and they’re talking about including use-package with emacs 30.

theCodeStig 4y ago

I use Nix on macOS to install emacs. No special ports.