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Surely it's more simple but not more boring? (At least to many people, myself included, who spent more time enjoying pong than pinball.) edit: If you wanted to

by swores 4y ago

Surely it's more simple but not more boring? (At least to many people, myself included, who spent more time enjoying pong than pinball.) edit: If you wanted to answer the question "which is more boring, football(soccer) or baseball" you'd ask people their opinion, rather than call one of them more boring based on the complexity of the rules/playing field/number of players/etc. It's completely subjective (though a fact about everyone, nobody, or somewhere specific between finding something boring can be objective if taken from a good poll or whatever).

boomboomsubban 4y ago
>If you wanted to answer the question "which is more boring, football(soccer) or baseball" you'd ask people their opinion, rather than call one of them more boring based on the complexity of the rules/playing field/number of players/etc. Even many baseball fans would say baseball is more boring, as soccer is designed to be 90 minutes of pure action while baseball is designed to spend much of the time waiting for the next pitch. People can like the "boring" thing more. Similarly, pinball was designed to be exciting with a bunch of fancy lights and sounds. Comparatively, early pong showed nothing but the two paddles and a ball and could make one sound. It was boring, people still loved it and sank thousands of hours in.
- stephencanon 4y ago
  Describing soccer as “90 minutes of pure action” is … wow. I quite like soccer, but it’s about 5 minutes of action spread out amongst 85 minutes of preamble (the preamble is the interesting part, though, which is why I like it).
  - boomboomsubban 4y ago
    The "preamble" may not be as thrilling as the scoring opportunities but it's still action, both teams are competing with the ball.
    - stephencanon 4y ago
      That applies equally to baseball, though. How is the catcher setting up? How are the fielders adjusting? How far off the bases are the runners stepping out? Soccer and baseball are remarkably similar in this regard, and very different from most other field sports.
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- swores 4y ago
  I still disagree with you, boring is in the eye of the beholder not in the object itself. Pinball machines may have many more elements to them, they may be more eye catching, but to somebody who doesnt enjoy playing pinball at all it's still incredibly boring to them. Someone who enjoys it probably isn't finding it boring, or at least not more boring than doing nothing. Yes football has more actual playing time and takes 90 (well, closer to 110 after half time and added time) minutes compared to baseball's often hours, yes footballers walk/run an average of 3-4x further in a game on average than baseball players.... and yes, some baseball fans will think football is less boring (I'm one of them! I like baseball but far less than football)..., but to somebody who loves baseball and hates football, football is the more boring one. And they're not wrong, nor am I for thinking baseball is more boring. It's just subjective. Your comparison for "most boring" really only applies to somehow who has a quick look at both things, maybe in an art gallery, then moves on having found one of them less boring than the other. Not to people who actually played and enjoyed one or both of them.

by swores 4y ago

boomboomsubban 4y ago

>If you wanted to answer the question "which is more boring, football(soccer) or baseball" you'd ask people their opinion, rather than call one of them more boring based on the complexity of the rules/playing field/number of players/etc. Even many baseball fans would say baseball is more boring, as soccer is designed to be 90 minutes of pure action while baseball is designed to spend much of the time waiting for the next pitch. People can like the "boring" thing more. Similarly, pinball was designed to be exciting with a bunch of fancy lights and sounds. Comparatively, early pong showed nothing but the two paddles and a ball and could make one sound. It was boring, people still loved it and sank thousands of hours in.

stephencanon 4y ago
Describing soccer as “90 minutes of pure action” is … wow. I quite like soccer, but it’s about 5 minutes of action spread out amongst 85 minutes of preamble (the preamble is the interesting part, though, which is why I like it).
- boomboomsubban 4y ago
  The "preamble" may not be as thrilling as the scoring opportunities but it's still action, both teams are competing with the ball.
  - stephencanon 4y ago
    That applies equally to baseball, though. How is the catcher setting up? How are the fielders adjusting? How far off the bases are the runners stepping out? Soccer and baseball are remarkably similar in this regard, and very different from most other field sports.
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swores 4y ago
I still disagree with you, boring is in the eye of the beholder not in the object itself. Pinball machines may have many more elements to them, they may be more eye catching, but to somebody who doesnt enjoy playing pinball at all it's still incredibly boring to them. Someone who enjoys it probably isn't finding it boring, or at least not more boring than doing nothing. Yes football has more actual playing time and takes 90 (well, closer to 110 after half time and added time) minutes compared to baseball's often hours, yes footballers walk/run an average of 3-4x further in a game on average than baseball players.... and yes, some baseball fans will think football is less boring (I'm one of them! I like baseball but far less than football)..., but to somebody who loves baseball and hates football, football is the more boring one. And they're not wrong, nor am I for thinking baseball is more boring. It's just subjective. Your comparison for "most boring" really only applies to somehow who has a quick look at both things, maybe in an art gallery, then moves on having found one of them less boring than the other. Not to people who actually played and enjoyed one or both of them.