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There's synthetic leather too. And there's vegan cheese https://www.reddit.com/r/vegancheesemaking https://www.reddit.com/r/vegancheesemaking and of course ve

There's synthetic leather too. And there's vegan cheese https://www.reddit.com/r/vegancheesemaking https://www.reddit.com/r/vegancheesemaking and of course vegan yogurt etc. (you can make yogurt with coconut milk for example)

quelltext 4y ago
> There's synthetic leather too. ...and it sucks as a replacement for genuine leather.
- jbuhbjlnjbn 4y ago
  It doesn't have to, Alcantara is extremely robust and a great replacement for leather, just as one example. But the synthetic leather in cheap products aiming to look like real smooth leather, I think this is the one you mean, time and time again is so inferior it's almost a scam. Shoes will fall apart quickly, sofas, clothing will peel off after 2-3 years when the softener has gassed out.
HideousKojima 4y ago
>vegan cheese My old boss was vegan (or rather his wife was and he was very accommodating of her diet, he would still eat meat outside the home). He would always mention that the fanciest, most expensive vegan cheese option out there set itself apart from the rest with the tagline "It melts!" on the packaging. Vegan cheese has to come a long way to be anywhere comparable to real cheese. The same applies to synthetic leather, by the way.
- dr_orpheus 4y ago
  It depends on what you are looking for with the vegan cheese. If you want something to go with a charcuterie plate, there are really good cultured cashew milk cheeses. They are more akin to cheese spreads though, something like this [0] But if you are looking for something like a slice of cheddar or vegan mac-n-cheese the options are really pretty terrible and all have an aftertaste like you just ate a spoonful of Crisco. [0] https://miyokos.com/products/classic-double-cream-chive-cheese https://miyokos.com/products/classic-double-cream-chive-chee...
  - jfim 4y ago
    Not knowing anything about vegan cheeses, are there options that would be something similar to say brie, camembert, emmental, fontina, gruyère, havarti, manchego, parmigiano reggiano, or roquefort?
    - dr_orpheus 4y ago
      There might be some I'm not really sure for the specific varieties you have listed above. A vegan gouda seems to be a pretty standard thing for some of the manufacturers. So there are definitely some trying to make things outside the typical cheddar, swiss, mozzarella. I don't think I have ever seen something trying to imitate any really soft (brie) or blue (roquefort) cheeses.
- ajmurmann 4y ago
  There are several products lined up to come out next year that use casein produced by genetically modified plants. There are already products with similar whey protein from plants on the market. For example I've been loving Brave Robot ice cream.
oblio 4y ago
Isn't synthetic leather just plastic? That's not really better for the environment.
- nextaccountic 4y ago
  There are some that are plant based.

quelltext 4y ago

> There's synthetic leather too. ...and it sucks as a replacement for genuine leather.

jbuhbjlnjbn 4y ago
It doesn't have to, Alcantara is extremely robust and a great replacement for leather, just as one example. But the synthetic leather in cheap products aiming to look like real smooth leather, I think this is the one you mean, time and time again is so inferior it's almost a scam. Shoes will fall apart quickly, sofas, clothing will peel off after 2-3 years when the softener has gassed out.

HideousKojima 4y ago

>vegan cheese My old boss was vegan (or rather his wife was and he was very accommodating of her diet, he would still eat meat outside the home). He would always mention that the fanciest, most expensive vegan cheese option out there set itself apart from the rest with the tagline "It melts!" on the packaging. Vegan cheese has to come a long way to be anywhere comparable to real cheese. The same applies to synthetic leather, by the way.

dr_orpheus 4y ago
It depends on what you are looking for with the vegan cheese. If you want something to go with a charcuterie plate, there are really good cultured cashew milk cheeses. They are more akin to cheese spreads though, something like this [0] But if you are looking for something like a slice of cheddar or vegan mac-n-cheese the options are really pretty terrible and all have an aftertaste like you just ate a spoonful of Crisco. [0] https://miyokos.com/products/classic-double-cream-chive-cheese https://miyokos.com/products/classic-double-cream-chive-chee...
- jfim 4y ago
  Not knowing anything about vegan cheeses, are there options that would be something similar to say brie, camembert, emmental, fontina, gruyère, havarti, manchego, parmigiano reggiano, or roquefort?
  - dr_orpheus 4y ago
    There might be some I'm not really sure for the specific varieties you have listed above. A vegan gouda seems to be a pretty standard thing for some of the manufacturers. So there are definitely some trying to make things outside the typical cheddar, swiss, mozzarella. I don't think I have ever seen something trying to imitate any really soft (brie) or blue (roquefort) cheeses.
ajmurmann 4y ago
There are several products lined up to come out next year that use casein produced by genetically modified plants. There are already products with similar whey protein from plants on the market. For example I've been loving Brave Robot ice cream.

oblio 4y ago

Isn't synthetic leather just plastic? That's not really better for the environment.

nextaccountic 4y ago
There are some that are plant based.