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Okay, let's suppose then that an idiot does something horrible, is the idiot to blame 100% for the horrible thing? What about the people that should know better

Okay, let's suppose then that an idiot does something horrible, is the idiot to blame 100% for the horrible thing? What about the people that should know better? What about the people who repeatedly encouraged a rabid base to attack people? What about the people who exploit the morons to do their bidding? What if people start getting branded as "undesirable" by certain individuals, and others make sure to cleanse them? So let me make it more clear, how many innocents are you willing to sacrifice for free speech?

scarmig 4y ago
Is it better when the governing class decides certain individuals or thoughts are evil and makes sure to cleanse them from the world? Could that cause harm to people, or is the government always right? How many innocents are you willing to see die and suffer for the sake of purging bad thoughts from society?
- PartiallyTyped 4y ago
  Stawman. Who said the government should decide? > Is it better when the governing class decides certain individuals or thoughts are evil and makes sure to cleanse them from the world? Leave it to the people, let the people vote with their wallet. People clearly don't want that kind of speech available, exhibit all absolute free speech sites. The government dictating what is allowed to go on platforms and forcing companies to host vitriol and calls to violence to "cleanse" society is not any different to what you describe. It just adds a middle man so the government keeps their hands clean. Cut the strawmans. I didn't advocate for government control, you took it there, and the fact that I am even entertaining this response is well beyond what it deserves.
lootsauce 4y ago
And what if when it is government branding the undesirables? Only a problem when you disagree? But of course all the sane people agree with the ministry of truth and decency. Personal responsibility is a far better position to defend despite the garbage that comes along for the ride than say an overarching unquestionable central authority that dictates and enforces what is acceptable for all with threat of government sanctioned violence (imprisonment) for non-compliance.
- PartiallyTyped 4y ago
  Who spoke about the government doing things? Yet another strawman. The government forcing companies to host speech they do not want to host as DeSantis wants to do with Apple, and has been done in Florida and Texas is inherently fascist. Where is the personal responsibility for the people who willingly taunt their followers and point the finger towards minorities? Why are republican figures not facing justice for the atrocities committed as a consequence of their speech?

scarmig 4y ago

Is it better when the governing class decides certain individuals or thoughts are evil and makes sure to cleanse them from the world? Could that cause harm to people, or is the government always right? How many innocents are you willing to see die and suffer for the sake of purging bad thoughts from society?

PartiallyTyped 4y ago
Stawman. Who said the government should decide? > Is it better when the governing class decides certain individuals or thoughts are evil and makes sure to cleanse them from the world? Leave it to the people, let the people vote with their wallet. People clearly don't want that kind of speech available, exhibit all absolute free speech sites. The government dictating what is allowed to go on platforms and forcing companies to host vitriol and calls to violence to "cleanse" society is not any different to what you describe. It just adds a middle man so the government keeps their hands clean. Cut the strawmans. I didn't advocate for government control, you took it there, and the fact that I am even entertaining this response is well beyond what it deserves.

lootsauce 4y ago

And what if when it is government branding the undesirables? Only a problem when you disagree? But of course all the sane people agree with the ministry of truth and decency. Personal responsibility is a far better position to defend despite the garbage that comes along for the ride than say an overarching unquestionable central authority that dictates and enforces what is acceptable for all with threat of government sanctioned violence (imprisonment) for non-compliance.

PartiallyTyped 4y ago
Who spoke about the government doing things? Yet another strawman. The government forcing companies to host speech they do not want to host as DeSantis wants to do with Apple, and has been done in Florida and Texas is inherently fascist. Where is the personal responsibility for the people who willingly taunt their followers and point the finger towards minorities? Why are republican figures not facing justice for the atrocities committed as a consequence of their speech?