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Hmm I have just started working with RoR. Would jump at this but the DC part is turning me away. I know you guys said you had an office in Seattle any chance o

Hmm I have just started working with RoR. Would jump at this but the DC part is turning me away. I know you guys said you had an office in Seattle any chance of a similar program there? Edit: And I also would like to add that I wish there were more programs like this. So many companies want to hire elite,rockstar,jedi,ninja,etc programmers and not willing to give people like me with no CS background a chance. I can't even get an entry-level/junior position since they all require a strong skills these days.

overgryphon 15y ago
No offense intended, but why should entry level software development jobs be available to people without a CS skill set? Many people spend four years studying CS specifically to earn an entry level job in software development. Shouldn't those without a CS background spend time developing a comparable amount of skills before expecting a software development job? Why should candidates without a CS degree be held to a lower standard? Why would such a candidate deserve the same opportunities as someone who did devote a significant time to learning CS?
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  - overgryphon 15y ago
    Sure, it is possible to find a school to give you a CS degree without learning any useful skills. But most people who get a CS degree are required to write quite a bit of code to earn it, take classes in data structures, algorithms, math, and operating systems. While degree programs may be more theoretical than just learn to write code, a solid background in theory can be very useful. Why should someone expect a software development job if they have not spent a significant amount of time studying software development? I don't care if they self-study instead of going to school, but it is reasonable to expect a certain skill set before someone is hired to write software.
- venturebros 15y ago
  Never said I was looking to be a software developer. I'm a Front-end web developer. It's tough to get my foot into the door outside of the interactive agency realm because most companies require 2+ years experience and some form of testing just for a junior position.

overgryphon 15y ago

No offense intended, but why should entry level software development jobs be available to people without a CS skill set? Many people spend four years studying CS specifically to earn an entry level job in software development. Shouldn't those without a CS background spend time developing a comparable amount of skills before expecting a software development job? Why should candidates without a CS degree be held to a lower standard? Why would such a candidate deserve the same opportunities as someone who did devote a significant time to learning CS?

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- overgryphon 15y ago
  Sure, it is possible to find a school to give you a CS degree without learning any useful skills. But most people who get a CS degree are required to write quite a bit of code to earn it, take classes in data structures, algorithms, math, and operating systems. While degree programs may be more theoretical than just learn to write code, a solid background in theory can be very useful. Why should someone expect a software development job if they have not spent a significant amount of time studying software development? I don't care if they self-study instead of going to school, but it is reasonable to expect a certain skill set before someone is hired to write software.
venturebros 15y ago
Never said I was looking to be a software developer. I'm a Front-end web developer. It's tough to get my foot into the door outside of the interactive agency realm because most companies require 2+ years experience and some form of testing just for a junior position.