Or is it the other way around? I seem to remember that Roy Fielding did actually mean HATEOAS when saying REST, that REST isn't only CRUD but a discoverable and

Or is it the other way around? I seem to remember that Roy Fielding did actually mean HATEOAS when saying REST, that REST isn't only CRUD but a discoverable and self-describing API. EDIT: And the corollary of above is that most people when saying REST actually mean HTTP with correct method use. If not, then is there a good source on what you mean by REST and HATEOAS?