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This source says differently [0], at least for meat. Do you have any evidence or reasoning? [0] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18444144/ https://pubmed.ncbi.n

This source says differently [0], at least for meat. Do you have any evidence or reasoning? [0] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18444144/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18444144/

xapata 4y ago
Evidence for processing meat doesn't transfer well as evidence for processing beans.
tpm 4y ago
That's mostly related to the curing salts and their reaction with heme iron. Curing salts are not used when processing vegetables; heme iron is not added either (I hope), so this should not apply in this case.
- noduerme 4y ago
  Impossible patties have heme iron added. https://www.thrillist.com/eat/nation/impossible-burger-vs-beyond-meat https://www.thrillist.com/eat/nation/impossible-burger-vs-be...
RupertEisenhart 4y ago
For some reason there is no reply button on the other replies. Maybe the evidence for meat doesn't generalise, but the idea that fresh vegetables would retain some sort-lived structures that start to break down once processed seems plausible. I was just pointing out that GPs claim could do with some backup.
- diroussel 4y ago
  I think GP didn’t provide citations as it’s a fairly well known and un-controversial opinion. If this idea was new to you then maybe have a look at these sources, or do some other searches https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/red-and-processed-meats-raise-colorectal-cancer-risk https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/red-and-proce... https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/processed-foods/ https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/processed-foods...
  - RupertEisenhart 4y ago
    Your references seem to back me up, and not the person I was replying to? Eg: "There is evidence showing an association with certain types of food processing and poor health outcomes (especially highly- or ultra-processed foods). This association applies mainly to ultra-processed foods that contain added sugars, excess sodium, and unhealthful fats." From the second one. Maybe you confused my position?

This source says differently [0], at least for meat. Do you have any evidence or reasoning? [0] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18444144/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18444144/

xapata 4y ago

Evidence for processing meat doesn't transfer well as evidence for processing beans.

tpm 4y ago

That's mostly related to the curing salts and their reaction with heme iron. Curing salts are not used when processing vegetables; heme iron is not added either (I hope), so this should not apply in this case.

noduerme 4y ago
Impossible patties have heme iron added. https://www.thrillist.com/eat/nation/impossible-burger-vs-beyond-meat https://www.thrillist.com/eat/nation/impossible-burger-vs-be...

RupertEisenhart 4y ago

For some reason there is no reply button on the other replies. Maybe the evidence for meat doesn't generalise, but the idea that fresh vegetables would retain some sort-lived structures that start to break down once processed seems plausible. I was just pointing out that GPs claim could do with some backup.

diroussel 4y ago
I think GP didn’t provide citations as it’s a fairly well known and un-controversial opinion. If this idea was new to you then maybe have a look at these sources, or do some other searches https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/red-and-processed-meats-raise-colorectal-cancer-risk https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/red-and-proce... https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/processed-foods/ https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/processed-foods...
- RupertEisenhart 4y ago
  Your references seem to back me up, and not the person I was replying to? Eg: "There is evidence showing an association with certain types of food processing and poor health outcomes (especially highly- or ultra-processed foods). This association applies mainly to ultra-processed foods that contain added sugars, excess sodium, and unhealthful fats." From the second one. Maybe you confused my position?