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Can we really not have a thread on HN about the accomplishments of a country, in this case China, without bringing whatever protests are currently going on? US/

by itg 4y ago

Can we really not have a thread on HN about the accomplishments of a country, in this case China, without bringing whatever protests are currently going on? US/Europe has accomplishments related to space all the time but I don't see people mentioning anti-government protests that happen all the time in the same threads?

JumpCrisscross 4y ago
> accomplishments of a country, in this case China, without bringing whatever protests are currently going on? Eh, this is a mission being launched by the same Chinese state that's being protested. Apollo-era aerospace history commonly touches on the concurrent civil rights movement because they had a common political nexus. Also, to the extent there is non-technical commentary in the top comments on this thread, it's yours.
donatj 4y ago
The same reason you don’t talk about Nazi Germany’s accomplishments without bringing up the holocaust.
- walrus01 4y ago
  People who were previously entirely unaware tend to get uncomfortable when they learn about operation paperclip, Nazi rocket scientists, the v2 program, and the early history of NACA/NASA
  - JumpCrisscross 4y ago
    > People who were previously entirely unaware tend to get uncomfortable when they learn about operation paperclip, Nazi rocket scientists, the v2 program, and the early history of NACA/NASA This is why we talk about it.
darig 4y ago
tw1984 4y ago
Chinese living in China here, btw, also used to be pro-CCP. tell me, when was the last time when US/EU had a significant percentage of their own citizens locked up? talking about hard lock down, back in April/May, we didn't even have food supply when locked up at home. My neighbors were discussing online whether they should dispose their meat already gone bad, I had to share food (from my own very limited stock) with 90 years old living downstairs. It is not like people don't have food because they didn't work hard or because they chose some funny life style - I am talking about hard working people who worked their ass off but still couldn't get food when they have ton of cash saved. Here in Shanghai, the restriction is upgraded again today, we now have to have PCR tests every 48 hours. You get yourself tested 3.5 times a week, or you can't even allowed to set foot into a supermarket or restaurant. Again they want cut your food supply because there is COVID. "Accomplishments of a country"? Sorry, but I didn't see that. Taking science more seriously and acknowledge the fact that COVID is here to stay would be an accomplishment for the CCP. Taking its own citizens in a more respectful way would be an accomplishment for the CCP. Taking the constitution written by the CCP itself more seriously would be an accomplishment for the CCP.
- walrus01 4y ago
  - 10u152 4y ago
    What crime were these people in china convicted of? What was the trial process? What is was the oversight?
    - walrus01 4y ago
  - sn0wf1re 4y ago
    Sure if you say 1% is a significant amount*. The percentage in China is likely in the double digits if you count the people who have been under "house arrest" for the past couple months (or longer). * It should be lower, the USA should do better. Comparing it to the current situation in China is disingenuous.

by itg 4y ago

JumpCrisscross 4y ago

> accomplishments of a country, in this case China, without bringing whatever protests are currently going on? Eh, this is a mission being launched by the same Chinese state that's being protested. Apollo-era aerospace history commonly touches on the concurrent civil rights movement because they had a common political nexus. Also, to the extent there is non-technical commentary in the top comments on this thread, it's yours.

donatj 4y ago

The same reason you don’t talk about Nazi Germany’s accomplishments without bringing up the holocaust.

walrus01 4y ago
People who were previously entirely unaware tend to get uncomfortable when they learn about operation paperclip, Nazi rocket scientists, the v2 program, and the early history of NACA/NASA
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago
  > People who were previously entirely unaware tend to get uncomfortable when they learn about operation paperclip, Nazi rocket scientists, the v2 program, and the early history of NACA/NASA This is why we talk about it.

darig 4y ago

tw1984 4y ago

Chinese living in China here, btw, also used to be pro-CCP. tell me, when was the last time when US/EU had a significant percentage of their own citizens locked up? talking about hard lock down, back in April/May, we didn't even have food supply when locked up at home. My neighbors were discussing online whether they should dispose their meat already gone bad, I had to share food (from my own very limited stock) with 90 years old living downstairs. It is not like people don't have food because they didn't work hard or because they chose some funny life style - I am talking about hard working people who worked their ass off but still couldn't get food when they have ton of cash saved. Here in Shanghai, the restriction is upgraded again today, we now have to have PCR tests every 48 hours. You get yourself tested 3.5 times a week, or you can't even allowed to set foot into a supermarket or restaurant. Again they want cut your food supply because there is COVID. "Accomplishments of a country"? Sorry, but I didn't see that. Taking science more seriously and acknowledge the fact that COVID is here to stay would be an accomplishment for the CCP. Taking its own citizens in a more respectful way would be an accomplishment for the CCP. Taking the constitution written by the CCP itself more seriously would be an accomplishment for the CCP.

walrus01 4y ago
- 10u152 4y ago
  What crime were these people in china convicted of? What was the trial process? What is was the oversight?
  - walrus01 4y ago
- sn0wf1re 4y ago
  Sure if you say 1% is a significant amount*. The percentage in China is likely in the double digits if you count the people who have been under "house arrest" for the past couple months (or longer). * It should be lower, the USA should do better. Comparing it to the current situation in China is disingenuous.